What Makes you Bronze

Golden Hamster··1 votes·1,305 views

Hello my current rank is Silver 1 and I myself do not think I am good at the game. I'm not here to brag about being a little better than bronze, I have talked with a lot of bronze players. Some bronze 1 and some bronze 5 and also in between. I asked about 5-10 questions it varied by what I heard. I didn't what the cookie cutter answer "my team holds me back". i wanted diversity, because we know there is more than just a team that makes a great player. I myself intentionally placed bronze 4 for 2 seasons to see what it was like (wish i had gotten bronze 5 to get down there) I saw the good the bad and the ugly, but every time I managed to get out in under 50 or so games this was done on many accounts because I needed an array of outcomes. This was to see what it was like and how much mmr played such an important role in the teams you get, I would get teams that played better than their rank and teams that fought to the last second of the ff vote. I want to keep this open because i still want to know what makes people bronze what keeps them from climbing to their rank. Because, A youtube video wont get you out of bronze they wont show you in-depth what it is that gives them success, I will be adding on to this.

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Silly Neeko4 votes

The lack of willingness to play with/around team/champion strengths and weaknesses.

Inability to adapt to losing lane, and only wins lane by jungle ganks.... often times is neutral and does not farm well.

Lack of knowledge of champs and what they do and where their power spikes are.

Getting way too upset over the smallest things like if an ally gets outplayed, so they start to flame and then troll with the commentary of "stay bronze. You dont deserve to win."

They often keep trying to prove themselves because there is such a stigma around that rank, so they will often compensate by playing overagressively (just an assumption with this one, but they do often play WAY too overaggressively).

Golden Hamster1 votes

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The lack of willingness to play with/around team/champion strengths and weaknesses.

Inability to adapt to losing lane, and only wins lane by jungle ganks.... often times is neutral and does not farm well.

Lack of knowledge of champs and what they do and where their power spikes are.

Getting way too upset over the smallest things like if an ally gets outplayed, so they start to flame and then troll with the commentary of "stay bronze. You dont deserve to win."

They often keep trying to prove themselves because there is such a stigma around that rank, so they will often compensate by playing overagressively (just an assumption with this one, but they do often play WAY too overaggressively).

Totally true the last one was very accurate, when i went down to bronze 4 through 3 I had 2 items before laning phase was over because they wouldnt stop pushing and even if they were behind they still went in and by that time I would give them a kill to make them worth a pot again... But actually anyone who is bronze should take the time to go over this and see what they need to improve on thank you for your input!

Silly Neeko1 votes

No worries, i often go around and play bot games on smurfs etc.... i get overly aggressive when i get ahead quite often in the normals on the smurfs lol, but unless i have a lot of aoe damage i would never go in 1v5.

Theres quite a few newer/more inexperienced players that you can tell when they are overly jumpy too. For example vs Morg and Sivir lanes whenever i picked blitz.... it was nearly a free lane because as soon as i used my W and ran at them.. when i got close they would pop their spell shields because they were expecting me to pull. I waited a few seconds and then nabbed them.

That is mostly because they do not trust their reaction time though... but yeah. That adds in a lot.... most of them are very jumpy at using all of their abilities right away every time they think they have a shot... even max range.

Hopefully some people take a gander through posts like this to help them out lol

Modl Ryden l3 votes

They never take time to learn from their mistakes. Constantly lashing out with, "That's bullshit!", "Riot needs to...", "I wish Riot should hotfix...", "You see, this is why I like HotS more...", "I'm only bronze because my team keeps feeding.", "I'm only bronze because of trolls."

They never, ever, ever, acknowledge themselves.

Golden Hamster1 votes

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They never take time to learn from their mistakes. Constantly lashing out with, "That's bullshit!", "Riot needs to...", "I wish Riot should hotfix...", "You see, this is why I like HotS more...", "I'm only bronze because my team keeps feeding.", "I'm only bronze because of trolls."

They never, ever, ever, acknowledge themselves.

That is a great point, the only way to become a better player is too look back on yourself. Reflection is a great way to learn how you play and how you can carry situations thank you for that input!

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

get your mmr down to about 800. then you'll know what it's like.

Golden Hamster1 votes

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get your mmr down to about 800. then you'll know what it's like.

My mmr was at 300 when i started it all but yea i totally get it!

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

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My mmr was at 300 when i started it all but yea i totally get it!

300 mmr with 100 games played vs 300 mmr with 100000 games played is a big difference.

solo vs team is very different

premade/duos vs true solo is very different.


anyway. you can try, but being bronze genuinely is pretty hard for someone who isnt bronze already.

Golden Hamster1 votes

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300 mmr with 100 games played vs 300 mmr with 100000 games played is a big difference.

solo vs team is very different

premade/duos vs true solo is very different.


anyway. you can try, but being bronze genuinely is pretty hard for someone who isnt bronze already.

totally get it man, I wasnt saying that it was hard im here to learn about what makes people bronze though I will never feel the hard stuck bronze others will. I just want to explore and find a way that can help people out of bronze if you want to keep this up i would love to hear from you again man!

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

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totally get it man, I wasnt saying that it was hard im here to learn about what makes people bronze though I will never feel the hard stuck bronze others will. I just want to explore and find a way that can help people out of bronze if you want to keep this up i would love to hear from you again man!

oh. well your OP didnt really bring that across and these replies are mostly others demeaning bronze players.

basically bronze players that are stuck for the most part have some form of disadvantage.

that could be :

  • time
  • typing skill
  • awareness
  • lack of friends
  • lack of knowledge
  • faulty internet
  • poor pc equipment
  • an older account
  • a poor main
  • mental disorder
  • age
  • unlucky
  • poor communication skills
  • poor keybinding layout
  • bad timing (in regards to patching and broken champs)
  • lack of wards
  • poor itemization
  • UI inefficiency
  • casual attitude about gaming
  • in home distractions.
  • drug/alcohol consumption while gaming
  • server hopping
  • negative personality

there are quite a few others, but this sums up the majority of the issues. skills is only a very small part of the reason why. im bronze 5, but when i play with my college buddies we go on win streaks. i just cant stand them because of how rude they are to others sometimes. i'd rather just play by myself.

Golden Hamster1 votes

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oh. well your OP didnt really bring that across and these replies are mostly others demeaning bronze players.

basically bronze players that are stuck for the most part have some form of disadvantage.

that could be :

  • time
  • typing skill
  • awareness
  • lack of friends
  • lack of knowledge
  • faulty internet
  • poor pc equipment
  • an older account
  • a poor main
  • mental disorder
  • age
  • unlucky
  • poor communication skills
  • poor keybinding layout
  • bad timing (in regards to patching and broken champs)
  • lack of wards
  • poor itemization
  • UI inefficiency
  • casual attitude about gaming
  • in home distractions.
  • drug/alcohol consumption while gaming
  • server hopping
  • negative personality

there are quite a few others, but this sums up the majority of the issues. skills is only a very small part of the reason why. im bronze 5, but when i play with my college buddies we go on win streaks. i just cant stand them because of how rude they are to others sometimes. i'd rather just play by myself.

Im sorry you feel they are demeaning bronze players this thread was supposed to show and learn from the mistakes. I do not want people to feel like they are getting put down for being bronze. Also, they have valid points to show why someone is stuck in bronze. When I first did my placements one of my friends told me I was going to get placed bronze 5 and i was going to be stuck there, I used that criticism to as a base to build the house of success. though sometimes i drove a couple nails into that house that were excuses like my team fucked me over they griefed my game excuses are the nails that build the house of failure though... When i finished my ten games (side note my friend was plat 3 at the time still is) i was placed silver 2. The look on my friends face was the best revenge i could've gotten. If people try to put you down make it only a try and a goal to prove them wrong. Thank you for your comment I honestly hope you accept my friend request i would love to ask you some questions!

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

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Im sorry you feel they are demeaning bronze players this thread was supposed to show and learn from the mistakes. I do not want people to feel like they are getting put down for being bronze. Also, they have valid points to show why someone is stuck in bronze. When I first did my placements one of my friends told me I was going to get placed bronze 5 and i was going to be stuck there, I used that criticism to as a base to build the house of success. though sometimes i drove a couple nails into that house that were excuses like my team fucked me over they griefed my game excuses are the nails that build the house of failure though... When i finished my ten games (side note my friend was plat 3 at the time still is) i was placed silver 2. The look on my friends face was the best revenge i could've gotten. If people try to put you down make it only a try and a goal to prove them wrong. Thank you for your comment I honestly hope you accept my friend request i would love to ask you some questions!

oh. that was you. was wondering. i dont usually add people, but i'll do it to answer your questions.

d4rkshock1 votes

About the "my team holding me back" awnser, my views on it is some of it is my fault and I could've done so much more and the rest is my team when I get ahead but then my temamates feed. If I made it to b1 100 lp, that is an indication that I should be silver and I have but it's elo hell.

Golden Hamster1 votes

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About the "my team holding me back" awnser, my views on it is some of it is my fault and I could've done so much more and the rest is my team when I get ahead but then my temamates feed. If I made it to b1 100 lp, that is an indication that I should be silver and I have but it's elo hell.

okay the fact that you made it to bronze 1 promos doesnt mean you should be silver it just means you are capable to get to silver. your teammates may feed or call some stupid things but its your job to help them through it though you are capable enough to get to silver others may not keep trying. remember not every game is winnable. thats not how this game is anymore

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