The mage minions are mages, shouldn't they do magic damages?

Raph450·Jun 27, 2016·49 votes·3,030 views

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RalanrJun 27, 20165 votes

They don't?

Well I'll be damned.

Duke AnaxJun 27, 20163 votes

When i started playing LoL I occasionaly bought Null Magic Mantle because those caster minions do a lot more damage than the melee ones.

Angry MonsterJun 27, 20164 votes

name a mage champ that has basic attacks that do magic damage (besides corki)

So no

CerealBoxOfDoomJun 27, 201625 votes

[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ty87ENr6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-27T17:06:17.004+0000)

name a mage champ that has basic attacks that do magic damage (besides corki)

So no

orianna

DrCyanideJun 27, 201623 votes

And Ziggs.

Doctor JarvisJun 27, 201622 votes

And Kayle.

Registeel1234Jun 27, 201612 votes

And X with item 3115 / item 3091 / item 3100

Doctor JarvisJun 27, 20163 votes

I don't think we're counting those champions because minions can't build items.

Registeel1234Jun 27, 20161 votes

shhhhhhhhhhh :P

SpoofghoulJun 27, 201626 votes

maybe minions should build item i mean if they keep stealing my cs they should at least spend it well!

Valor BotJun 28, 201612 votes

Knowing me, my minions would have an IE before I could even finish BF sword

DarkRitualJun 28, 20162 votes

Minion gold used to uograde base turrets and inhib/nexus health.

The DeckownerJun 28, 20161 votes

Teemo Lulu Oriana Ziggs

Death by GlamourJun 27, 201616 votes

Fizz and lulu

NarasimhaJun 28, 20165 votes

Eh, Lulu technically doesn't. It is Pix attacking, after all.

Raph450Jun 27, 20163 votes

But champions aren't minions.

Duke AnaxJun 27, 20166 votes

And mage minions don't use spells either.

Hmm, how about that: caster minions that actually cast?

Dragon can cast too, so why not other Creeps.

Angry MonsterJun 27, 20163 votes

coding says other wise, everything that moves is a modified minions, hell some walls like base gates are minions also.

SasogwaJun 27, 20165 votes

[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ty87ENr6,comment-id=000000020001,timestamp=2016-06-27T18:29:00.107+0000)

coding says other wise, everything that moves is a modified minions, hell some walls like base gates are minions also.

Interestingly enough, I came to know Zyra's plant seeds are coded as minions since bots in a coop game acted like those were in range of the tower aka tanking it, and just walked to the tower like it was fine, then got hit and died.

DeliothJun 28, 20162 votes

This is mostly because polymorphism and subclassing in code is more efficient and also saves significant code space, rather than copying code here and there and there. If it has collision detection, why would we write and rewrite the collision detection code a million places (and thus have that many places to have to change it, leading to easily-preventable bugs) when we could instead have a base that offers it, and just modify factors that read into it? Plus it means any patches and the game become more compact (you don't have 14 copies of collision detection which must all be changed when we make one little change- for every single attribute of minions et al.).

martinukasLTJun 28, 20161 votes

I think what you mean is having a parent is better than doing coding all over :)

P.S. A parent is a thing that does this "(you don't have 14 copies of collision detection which must all be changed when we make one little change- for every single attribute of minions et al.) " and it's used everywhere! :)

martinukasLTJun 28, 20161 votes

Even yasuo W includes a minion xD

Chaotic ReksJun 28, 20161 votes

Kassadin

THE RlVER KlNGJun 29, 20161 votes

Karthus

Lady HammerlockJun 29, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ty87ENr6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-27T17:06:17.004+0000)

name a mage champ that has basic attacks that do magic damage (besides corki)

So no

Chogath Kennen with his W

L Psy KongrooJun 27, 20164 votes

And Thresh.

Mistress ShyvanaJun 27, 20163 votes

Even if mages CHANPIONS don't do Magic damage on basics. I think it would be cool if caster minions did magic damage.

CerealBoxOfDoomJun 27, 20162 votes

btw I think some minions do deal magic or mixed damage

Firearm2012Jun 28, 20163 votes

They don't, all minions do physical damage

aLawfulFalafelJun 28, 20161 votes

poor guy, all he did was think something and say it as his own thought, see where he said "i think"?

i can Garen tee a large number of players assumed caster minions were casting and therefore doing magic damage at one point since they started playing

myself, i was never sure, i know death recap will say its physical damage if you get away with 1 hp after a fight and a random caster kills you but this is the same death recap that tells me things like i killed myself from 1k true damage from revive so i dont really trust it tooooooo much :p

anyways, don't feel bad cereal, you aren't alone, there will always be at least ONE player that thinks something along these lines XD

CerealBoxOfDoomJun 28, 20161 votes

well mind is based more off the death recap but ok. It often says the minions dealt mixed damage

Shrek LuigiJun 28, 20162 votes

Magic doesn't exist, and it's childish to believe in such a thing

CasterGilgameshJun 28, 20161 votes

how is this relevant to the discussion

kile147Jun 28, 20162 votes

Downvoted for incorrect use of meme.

MunchCrunchLunchJun 28, 20161 votes

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BlkGolemJun 28, 20161 votes

Towers shoot bolts of energy. Should at least be magic dmg if not true dmg.

billxxJun 28, 20161 votes

Towers do do true damage

XeruonJun 28, 20162 votes

All towers except fountain do physical damage.

Captain AishiJun 28, 20161 votes

they're not mage minions, they're caster minions, and in this case in particular, AD casters!

DarkRitualJun 28, 20161 votes

Rework Banner of Command to only make immune from champion magic damage. Make caster minions do magic damage, and laser turrets also magic damage (adjust numbers as needed for balance). I think it could work, and make Full armor tanks think harder about diving the double nexus turrets.

DREADN0UGHTJun 28, 20161 votes

Wrong meme.

This is bad, and you should feel bad.

LoL Ergo UrgotJun 28, 20161 votes

Diana

JinxGoesBoomJun 29, 20161 votes

I like to imagine they're not actually mages, they're actually just children pretending to be wizards and throwing rocks at people shouting ABRA CADABRA.

...and that Im beating them up and taking their lunch money.

Raph450Jun 29, 20161 votes

That's kind of crual.