Sona and Janna should have a "Cosmetic Buff" like Ahri's.

Raph450·Aug 17, 2016·41 votes·2,737 views

Few month ago, Ahri received what Riot called a "Cosmetic buff", which improved her tails movements to be smoother, more realistic, its' the same Tech Riot used to animate Aurelion Sol's tail. Since this "upgrade", only Pool Party Fiora got a similar use of the tech with her giggling sword but I think that some champions would need this to look a little bit more realistic in game and less "blocked" on some points. I think a lot about 's "scarfs" and hairs, which don't have a natural movement and feel very unsatisfying to watch. Same goes for hairs and "scarfs".

Here is the link for LOLKING's model viewer so you can see the animations by yourself.

What do you think about this?

34 Comments

OleandervineAug 17, 201623 votes

I think Janna just needs another VU and new voice lines. She looks very dated, being one of the original reworks, just like Kayle and Morgana, who also need new VUs.

OokamiNoSoraAug 18, 20161 votes

she looks a lot better then she did before her visual rework that she already had

SharjoAug 18, 20163 votes

Aye but compare her flowing hair to Taric and see what she could become with another update.

EROTIC RAID BOSSAug 18, 20162 votes

If they did I'd want them to take another look at her overall design too. it's not really air elemental so much as, pretty girl, few clothes, she floats. they could also spice up her animations a lot to make her look less... boring, at what she does.

I wish she looked more ethereal

OokamiNoSoraAug 18, 20163 votes

shes not a elemental shes a mage that was born in zaun

Troll for TrumpAug 18, 20161 votes

Then there's Udyr...

MagicFlyingLlamaAug 17, 201610 votes

_only Pool Party Fiora got a similar use of the tech with his giggling sword _

I.. What?

Raph450Aug 17, 20161 votes

Pool party Fiora's sword is a foam noodle (I don't know the name for it) that giggle when she moves or uses a basic attack ^^

SharjoAug 17, 201610 votes

*jiggle.

Giggle is a form of laughter.

MelledoneusAug 18, 20164 votes

Fiora "ON GUARD!" Sword: "HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!"

Chromatic EagleAug 17, 20169 votes

You also called Fiora a he. Kappa

bony whimsarkAug 18, 201610 votes

Can we just all give a moment of silence for how horrible Nocturne model is. Like wtf is that 2d tail my eye plssss

sortitusAug 18, 20162 votes

I feel like he needs a full visual rework, I hate all of his skins including Eternum. He's in my top 3 champions and I always go with the default skin because it looks the least bad to me.

I have similar feelings toward Karma, except her problem is that her default skin is so good that it makes any but Lotus look bad in comparison.

THE RlVER KlNGAug 18, 20167 votes

Tbh I don't even mind not getting a new champ for a while if Riot just put effort into doing visual and voiceover updates for like a third of the roster. At least new voiceovers. Each new champion has pages of dialogue and awesome taunts and then there's like Zilean or Fiddle or WW who have like a dozen lines total.

FantasySniperAug 18, 20161 votes

coughAmumucough

MavenSongAug 18, 20163 votes

Sona dont have that many lines either. Not counting music lines (taunts/jokes/etcetera) she only has 15 actual lines.

I mean granted she IS mute but still.

There are a lot of old champs who could really do with a new VO

Forbidden SirenAug 18, 20163 votes

I think they gave the cosmetic buff to Lissandra's hair too. But I do agree that they should at least give one for Sona's hair.

MavenSongAug 18, 20161 votes

Agreed, Sona could use this.

... im not biased.... nope

TyrekGoldenspearAug 18, 20161 votes

Of course not. ;D I agree though.

MatezoideAug 18, 20161 votes

Ahri is the only old champion that got this because she is special and her players would probably have a heart attack otherwise.

Onkel MalteAug 18, 20161 votes

I'd absolutely love to see some more visual updates of Janna and Sona.

But there are actually over 75 champions in need of Visual, Voiceover or Gameplay updates, even more than Janna and Sona.

A serial feederAug 18, 20161 votes

Ahri tails were done as a side project by a rioter so i doubt it is something riot really prioritizes.

MavenSongAug 18, 20165 votes

Azir and Lissandra were also done so it isnt out of the question

GuardAbuseAug 19, 20161 votes

I think it was to prep the mechanic for Aurelion Sol.

FantasySniperAug 18, 20161 votes

Cassiopeia Nocturne could use the same.

Maybe even stuff like Talon 's cloak could get the same treatment.

OleandervineAug 18, 20161 votes

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could use the same.

Maybe even stuff like 's cloak could get the same treatment.

Cassiopeia wouldn't use this physics rigging update because she doesn't have any free flowing aspects that it would operate with. Ahri had her tails while in movement, Lissandra had her ponytail, and Aurelion had his free floating body. A snake, like Cassiopeia's lower half, does not free flow and does not operate with drag-along physics - the entire snake has to be slithering in order to properly move. Her movement animations are actually pretty decent, and if she needs anything, it's a base skin recall animation.

FantasySniperAug 18, 20161 votes

Do you know how a snake's turning works? It doesn't work like Cass'. When she turns, the whole tail moves with her in an instant instead of dragging like Sol's.

Im Kinda StupidAug 18, 20161 votes

What im hoping for is that Cass' movent mimics that of Dota 2 Medusa... just wishful thinking :3

OleandervineAug 18, 20161 votes

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Do you know how a snake's turning works? It doesn't work like Cass'. When she turns, the whole tail moves with her in an instant instead of dragging like Sol's.

That's true, but Sol's tail is free floating, and having no ground contact. Having her tail act like Sol's is physically unfeasible because her lower half still has to actually exert force to propel her, where as Sol's lower half I'd simply drug along by the top.

FantasySniperAug 18, 20161 votes

It's physically unfeasible to move your tail in the same position relative to your body while you're on the ground, but not when you're in the air?

GuardAbuseAug 19, 20161 votes

I agree! Here's a list of all the champs that I think could make use of it (not previously stated in the thread):

Cassiopeia Nami Zyra This is actually because she has very long hair and Lissandra got that treatment before Ahri because of her hair Renekton His tail is small, but could def be a nice change. RekSai Ashe Vayne These two have very long capes, but as they're more 2d than 3d it may not be worth to code. Vayne's hair my need it as well. Chogath Again, the little tail. KogMaw Prolly not even worth doing with the tiny tail Nidalee Cougar form tail Evelynn Her little flowing things are basically the same as Janna's. Akali Long ponytail. Diana Guess what? Long hair. Also a note: I know I have a lot of champions in here because of hair. Believe it or not, I played Lissandra before and after the change, and it was a very nice and noticeable touch. Another note: I'm pretty sure they tested this mechanic on Liss then Ahri to prep for Sol because of his entire body.