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Rune System OP? Unfair Advantages

Lichformed·12/28/2015, 9:38:33 PM·6 votes·992 views

All of you should be familiar with the runes system? Well I want to talk about a problem with ARP Runes and runes alike. I was playing a game of Mid Teemo because I was bored, I got against a Zed. I was thinking "How is he doing damage that big" and so I went and asked him "What runes are you using?" he answered 30 ARP runes. Usually the base armor is 30. So his runes took all that away. Zed proceeded to buy a Youmuu's Ghostblade witch gave him 20+ ARP. For some reason going negative in ARP means more damage. So 20 ARP means about how much "20-30%" more damage compared to a runeless Zed.

So how much do these Runes cost? With rough math they cost somewhere in 6000 IP witch means a lot of games. "Why is this important" you may ask. Well if you play many games daily. Then getting that 6000 IP isn't that hard, I might take weeks or months, but still doable, but what about players that play casually? Well they'd have to play way more than the Hardcore gamer to get the advantages. When you're a casual gamer you may be more interested in buying new champions with new skills and gameplay to keep it fresh am I right?

So this makes a serious unbalance in the game itself. Casual gamers may want to even quit playing because they're wondering how they're not doing as well with the same items as the enemy.

Heck even I want champions. I don't really want to buy a 0.03 increase on my stats with the same price of Annie a solid midlaner. But if you watch deeper. You will see that the 0.03 stat increase is huge when it's stacked.

This is quite serious, but as myself I really can't do anything about this. So what I'd like to see is that Riot would seek a new solution for these Runes.

And if you're commenting DON'T write any mockery. Instead write an intelligent fun to read answer. Remember "If you don't have anything good to say. Don't say it at all"

25 Comments

Dreadlocks12/28/2015, 9:40:49 PM2 votes

If you are truly a casual gamer, then this shouldn't even bother you to begin with. Aside from that.. runes help, but they arn't as game breaking as u think.

Pasta Help Desk12/28/2015, 9:42:51 PM1 votes

Is it possible for 30 armor pen in runes alone? I thought the max was 19.

Either way if a zed does take all that early armor pen, he doesn't have the ad to make them actually work effectively in the beginning.

Serevas12/28/2015, 9:50:53 PM1 votes

To be completely honest, I don't really see any reason for this kind of change.

The "hardcore gamers" will put much more time into the game, and frankly should be rewarded for investing more time in something than someone else. It makes no sense at all to me that someone who plays 10 games a day wouldn't have advantages over someone who plays a single game every day.

I've always been of the belief that you should get what you work for. That hardcore gamer vs casual gamer situation has the hardcore gamer working 10x as hard to progress as the casual. As far as I'm concerned that should net him 10x the progress towards whatever, be it champions, runes, etc.

EndlessSorcerer12/28/2015, 10:00:30 PM1 votes

For some reason going negative in ARP means more damage. So 20 ARP means about how much "20-30%" more damage compared to a runeless Zed.

Penetration can't actually take you below 0 in a resistance. Only reduction can take you to negative numbers (and reduction applies before penetration).

TragicTrajectory12/29/2015, 12:52:24 AM1 votes

Runes are expensive and IP only so that people will both buy IP boosts and Champions with RP, it's a part of how the base game is monetized beyond just skins.

Xenos1111112/29/2015, 1:19:08 AM1 votes

Man have you even seen how much hybrid pen costs...

Slamurai Jack12/29/2015, 2:44:01 AM1 votes

You give up a lot of early game power by running so much armor pen instead of AD.

Llanite12/29/2015, 4:40:06 AM1 votes

Everyone gets IP from playing. You CHOOSE to buy champions rather than runes, how is that 'unfair'?

Advantage, yes, unfair, no.

magic pole12/29/2015, 6:41:01 AM1 votes

ok so he had no armor, health, attack damage nor mr runes...

and you are ranged with a blind...