I don't understand why people can't comprehend how building utility on High Damage champs works

Vertex Order··10 votes·4,029 views

For instance:

Zyra item 3174 item 3158 item 3107 item 3157 item 3116 item 3151

People look at these items and say to me: "Why are you trolling?" Even though I'm doing equal/more damage than all of them with Electrocute WHILE ALSO dishing out massive team-wide heal's because I run Font of Life. They don't bother to do any research at all to figure out what my plan is, they just look at it and think: "It's not meta, it's trolling." Want to know why I do this build?

  • I'm Zyra I do metric ass-blasting shit tons of damage thanks to my plants and a beyond easy to proc Electrocute, so people get chunked by me before utility even starts being a factor.

  • I'm Zyra I have one of the highest Base Mana-Regens in the game, and THE highest at level One: 15.355 -- 22.1 So item 3174 + item 3107 with their +250% makes it so I quite literally never have to worry about my Mana at any point in the game while also giving me up to 80 AP thanks to item 3174's AP conversion.

  • Domination gives me access to Ingenious Hunter So you know what that means? item 3107 item 3157 both 72 seconds instead of 120, making it so I can quite literally use them once every time a fight breaks out, I can actually survive shit like Zed all-ins because he won't have his ult back up before my actives are even halfway recharged.

  • Font of Life procs item 3174 so its effect doesn't go to waste on Zyra and effectively doubles the healing your allies are getting with every on-hit, it's effected by item 3107 passive making it even stronger, and best of all you can proc it as early as level 1 just by landing an E making Invades beyond fucking simple for your side.

  • You are literally a teamfight god, you can constantly spam out E+W until you finally land one and soften someone up with an instant Electrocute then follow up with an ult+item 3107 healing all of your team when they follow up, dealing 10% Max-HP true-damage to the enemy while also making them walking health-packs for your teammates because they've all been slowed thanks to your item 3116


People need to learn to open up their minds and experiment to make it through this meta, being a sheep just sticking to what you see on streams is never going to work out in the long run.

10 Comments

disregardable4 votes

yeah you'll do decent dmg in the early game

but midgame you have like no dmg at all, and mid game is literally the most important point in the game.

Vertex Order4 votes

Excuse you? I do plenty of damage mid-game, not to mention I'd make up for any sort of drop with a massive boost in utility.

I average 25k damage a game, want to know how much healing I give my team? 10k or higher depending on how many auto-attackers I have, I make up for any "damage loss" I get by being a catch-happy god dishing out free kills for my team with my root spam and keeping them healthy from half a map away with a Redemption.

Tahminatrix 4 votes

Zyra has tons of base damage....item 3151 increasing this by 10% and even doing %max hp damage burns...

Zyra ONLY falls off in damage if the enemy is smart enough to buy a considerable amount of mr and she cant afford to get item 3135 do you see any tanks in this meta?

Best part of this build is that she doesn't even need to pierce the enemy MR for her damage to count thanks to item 3174 giving her tons of blood charges based on premitigation damage.

Alphadef2 votes

While I get your points, Zed's ult cooldown is much lower than your zhonya's cooldown.

Lunar ArcS2 votes

zyra with athenes... what in the world.. Font of life doesn't heal for nearly as much as you are giving credit here.. Zyra is not a tank, hence why 1% of her max health is very small. Idk i can see this being somewhat viable but the entire point of playing zyra is not to be a healer, its to be a dps support. It's just kinda wasting stats and gold to go off meta, hence why it isnt meta. We arent sheep we just arent stupidly wasting gold and resources.

Also zeds ult will be up much sooner than your zhonyas ^^'

Pandeonor2 votes

It´s easy to show:

Vertex Order 607.2

That´s your damage per minute in Midlane.

Average is: 650 mainly for supporters

And I did in silver [as support] an average of 800 damage per minute, actually maybe 700-750 [only utility I built is Rylais].

I agree to Zhonyas in certain matchups as vs Kayn, Fizz and Zed [you may need this there; whereas I ban Zed midlane all the time]. And agreed that some have bad understanding as for example I got flamed for building Witchcap on 3vs3 map.

Overall you can do much more damage with other items. Every items have "gold worth" stats: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Gold_efficiency

You can´t as Zyra make use of all stats Athenes give. So it´s not highly efficient as other items on her.

Overall it´s possible to build utility. I remember times in Bronze/Silver where adc´s flamed me as I didn´t built Redemption. But for a midlaner your team may lack damage mid/lategame if you go utility only.

PS: Zyra OTP here

TeCoolMage1 votes

I want to do something similar on Anivia but mana is expensive :s at least I don’t gave to buy Rylai

Ayzev1 votes

One thing you can definitely do is switch from Lucidity to Sorc's. The pen is just straight up better than the CDR, which you're overcapping anyway, and I assume that's because you're taking Transendence, but 20 AP still just isn't as good as 18 pen, especially when your scalings are as measly as Zyra's and you aren't facing a tank.

Vertex Order1 votes

I get 40% exactly, what are you talking about?

I take Font of Life, is that in Sorcery?

Ayzev1 votes

Ah, shit, my bad, I wasn't aware Athene gave 10% now. But still, my point stands, the pen should benefit you more.

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