Okay so.... 5 games in a row now. Each game had a morde and a skarner on the enemy team. Gets absolutely curb stomped. What?
: In those 5 games, Morde was in bot lane replacing the ADC. 3 minutes later, he begins one shotting everyone. Now no one on my team wants to fight him, even if hes all alone.
Don't see how peeps consider this new "rework" has gutted Morde.
: On a lesser scale but still. No one wants to fight him.
Big Lincoln2 votesyou can't play vs mord like you would a traditional bot lane
You need to respect the power he gets when he's near his support -- he gets sustain, a MASSIVE damage boost because he has his W available, and he has the damage to capitalize on his support's crowd control. You should not be fighting him early game; ESPECIALLY not with the support he synergizes with
TBH most people are just clueless on how to play him. You will not win a 2v2 early game, but you have to respect Mord's power and outfarm him.
KnKitsune1 votes[{quoted}](name=Solomon Money,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tngaNuAs,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-08-23T22:19:58.307+0000)
you can't play vs mord like you would a traditional bot lane
You need to respect the power he gets when he's near his support -- he gets sustain, a MASSIVE damage boost because he has his W available, and he has the damage to capitalize on his support's crowd control. You should not be fighting him early game; ESPECIALLY not with the support he synergizes with
TBH most people are just clueless on how to play him. You will not win a 2v2 early game, but you have to respect Mord's power and outfarm him.
The thing is, the only time I try to fight Mordekaiser is during mid/late game. I rarely play bot lane.
Matezoide1 votesSkarner and Garen are doing better than they expected, with one of them getting hot-fixed tomorrow.
Darius is below.
Mordekaiser seems to be doing better than they thought in Bot Lane, but Mid/Top is way below what Riot was expecting.
KnKitsune1 votesSkarner and Garen are doing better than they expected, with one of them getting hot-fixed tomorrow.
Darius is below.
Mordekaiser seems to be doing better than they thought in Bot Lane, but Mid/Top is way below what Riot was expecting.
Personally find Garen doing rather normal. His ult's passive doesn't work well in early lanes when his Villian is the support of all people p.p Haven't seen a Darius yet.
Matezoide1 votesPersonally find Garen doing rather normal. His ult's passive doesn't work well in early lanes when his Villian is the support of all people p.p Haven't seen a Darius yet.
To be honest, i dont think Darius is as bad as people are thinking, and he was a monster on the PBE in just about every single game he was in. Regardless, his win-rate is extremely low and he is slated for buffs.
Garen is a trickier case. Meddler has admited he isnt too sure if he needs nerfs at all, but agrees he is quite strong at this point.
Mordekaiser's performance is tricky as well. While he is winning bot a lot, he loses most games past the ~25 minutes mark, does low damage overral and barely gets gold ever, so it is hard to say if Riot is satisfied with him atm. Solo Laning is absolutely abysmal though, despite the fact he was supposed to retain strength when alone. Many are also attributing his success bot on the fact most ADCs are just not used to laning against him, since he takes a different mindset to beat.
Skarner though has been a complete monster since day one (PBE included). I am surprised people didnt complain at all on PBE. It is possible you just didnt pay enough attention to him during the games (And really, he can be harder to notice than Mordekaiser's dragon ghost and one-shotting you with that dumb as fuck Q).
Salt Miner 49 Er1 votesOkay so.... 5 games in a row now. Each game had a morde and a skarner on the enemy team. Gets absolutely curb stomped. What?
Don't see how peeps consider this new "rework" has gutted Morde.
The thing about Mordekaiser is he has to be able to get the three hits of his Q off to one-shot you. Which means that since he lacks CC he needs to have a teammate help him. He's also locked out of the ability to use his W unless he has a champion/dragon ghost or a teammate nearby. I'll agree that the scaling on Mace of Spades is absolutely ridiculous, but you can still blow him up.