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Potential Rengar buffs?

GoldenVequalsgg·8/15/2017, 2:03:51 PM·2 votes·507 views

Rengarvwas always a champion known to one-shot people ever since he was released. Eventually, having a very minor window of reaction to his burst was something that it was needed to be removed for counterplay purposes and here we are talking about his rework. The previous kit that he had, before the rework, made him really frostreghting to play as and to play against. He had a very feast of famine playstyle(no escapes like other assasins after he was done deleting someone, but know he has his empowered w cleanse) and the type of his old stealth combined with the fact that he could reveal all targets near, not the nearest like now, was very annoying.

Eventually, they reworked him and people say that is a failure, but i disagree. The most problems of his old kit were fixed ( the majority of the feast or famine playstyle that he used to have and the annoying low counterplay stealth from his ult) The factor behind rengar's low win rate now is the amount of nerfs that he has received plus the cinderhulk meta plus this factors combined with the fact that his kit has some really unsatisfying barriers in order to be succesfull: losing his ferocity stacks out of combact. That's the biggest problem currently with him. It's just way to difficult to pull-off a combo in order to make him function. He just feals very clunky to play.

My considered changes are:

  • Remove the disappearence of his ferocity stacks after 7 seconds out of combact.
  • Buff the cd on his ult from 12/16/20 to 14/18/25.

If u see that he's balanced live him there, don't rework him. If u see he's imbalanced somehow do a full visual and gameplay update on him the future.

Again, i don't try to impose something, i'm just leaving my opinions.

3 Comments

Beas7ie8/15/2017, 2:49:14 PM1 votes

Rengar was a lot of fun when he was released but then Riot suddenly decided that they didn't want him to do his job. So they nerfed him a bit and AD Rengar was kind of weak.

Thus came the rise of AP Rengar. Lots of fun to play. Lichbane get's powerful Qs and full ferocity W's do TONS of damage and can get you back to full health.

But then mean ol Rito had to ruin things again and be like "Oh I see you're playing this champ in a fun and unique way not originally intended. Well NO! YOU CANT DO THAT! NERF NERF NERF NNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!"

And Rengar was gutted.

And then later after that I stopped playing for a while and during that time Rengar was reworked. I tried him a few games after I came back playing and he can be kind of fun but I liked the old Rengar better. Part of may be that I'm just not that great with the new Rengar, but I prefer the older one where his Q was an empowered Auto attack. Maybe I'm in the minority I dunno, but the predator kitty kat just seems kind of meh.

LoliKnight8/15/2017, 3:55:20 PM1 votes

Prepare to be downvoted to oblivion by r/rengarmains for demanding a buff without asking for a Q revert. It's almost as if you're not a Rengar main if you don't ask for the old Q back, or are indifferent to it being there or not.

And that full subreddit still doesnt seem to get the fact that disagreement with a view doesn't mean you have to downvote it.

If you disagree, respond, don't downvote: Tbh this should be a general rule across Gameplay, but the downvote button is not for when you disagree with someone else's opinion. If a player is legitimately being toxic and disrupting conversation, you can downvote them, and are encouraged to report them, but otherwise hold off of that button and instead try to formulate a reply that states why you disagree

Nope hurr durr he no asking for q back d uh... better downvote yup yup ..

In any case, I actually wouldnt mind a Q revert, but then remove his stealth , increase his ult jump range and make it a skillshot dash that gives him bonus movespeed and/or attack speed IF he strikes a target or something.

If Q isnt being reverted, then improve his Q animation smoothness and enable it to be cancelled by select animations , just like Riven's Q now. Maybe give him his own fast combo where directly hovering the cursor over the enemy unit will shorten the animation and rightclicking behind /W&E or hydra cancels the animation of that, for a fast Q AA W&E empQ combo. That should satiate r/rengarmain's appetite for mechanics.

Fear the Kayn8/15/2017, 4:29:46 PM1 votes

I liked old Rengar a lot more than current Rengar.