Strong AP top laner?

degastar··1 votes·1,580 views

Hey guys,

I was wondering what the strongest AP top laners are at the moment. I've mastered Rumble Rumble and EkkoEkko and I'm looking for a new champ to pick up. I'm thinking maybe SwainSwain , LissandraLissandra , or VladimirVladimir ? Please help. Thanks!

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DrCyanide4 votes

Singed

shyv3 votes

im not sure if you mean just ap in general or ap as in a mage?

here are some ap champs that work well in the top lane

Malphite Lulu Nunu Vladimir Alistar Chogath Kennen Ryze Singed Swain Taric Teemo

degastar2 votes

I'll go through that list. Thanks!

shyv2 votes

np, if you like swain / rumble i think you would probably like vlad kennen and ryze, they're all kinda tanky and annoying to lane against. though with all 3 of those champs be careful of irelia lol she'll fuck you up

degastar1 votes

irelia can pretty much fuck everyone up xD Thanks for the heads up tho.

Frikgeek3 votes

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TIME TO RYZE UP THE RANKS MANG

degastar1 votes

Not Faker yet, but ill give it a try

TheThundersRoar1 votes

Doesn't take a Faker to play him. Just build a tear > boots 1 > RoA > boots 2 > FH (if enemy AD). Muramana at 750 is surprisingly good on Ryze (single target spells). AA staff also works.

Charge up 4 stacks, then combo. Q W Q E Q W Q E .... Throw in an R if you need it.

Frikgeek1 votes

That combo is sub-optimal and will get you killed if you try to sprint into passive from 1 stack. Always start your passive combo with W or R, starting it with Q or E will make you stall out if all your spells were on CD before you got into passive. A good tactic is to stay at 1 stack with all spells up then QE creeps R to get the movespeed to catch up with your enemy and W to start the combo. After that you just repeat WQEQ.

Never buy Muramana over AA staff and just don't get FH. Muramana might seem good but it does physical damage and it will actually give you less damage than the ~160 AP you get from Seraph's. FH is not worth it as you're wasting 10% CDR and the mana doesn't give you that much damage. You're better off running 10% CDR at 18 in your runes and getting a Zhonya's since you can use your passive, Q, Zhonya, then QERW to start another passive immediately. Your Q will have a 2.2s CD lategame so you're guaranteed a double passive with Zhonya's 2.5s stasis.

Canidae1 votes

RYZE UP AND ABOVE THE REST.

Paroe2 votes

Elise Fizz Diana Zac

Princess Emma2 votes

One thing that all 3 of those champions share is their abysmal win rates, so don't worry too much about that.

Swain The nerf on Swain's root hit him pretty hard, and you will have to deal with his mana issues and abysmal auto attack animation as well, but he is still a pain to deal with either way to other laners. The longer the game goes; the more of an unstoppable killing machine he will be. Ev

Lissandra Is able to perform well, but she has fallen out of favor as of late, but scales exceptionally well as time goes on, since her cool downs get much much shorter.

Vladimir Win rates for all of them are the same, but I would say Vlad is much more ''in'' right now you could say. It is important that you farm well and play safely in the lane phase though.

I can't give suggestions on others you could try, but I can tell you how they match up.

degastar1 votes

So far Singed and Chogath are some of the best suggestions. How do you think they do?

Thanks so much for the help!

Princess Emma2 votes

I have nothing against Singed, but many people find his game play linear and boring. He has simple mechanics, but only those who truly play Singed because they love him are the ones that perform exceptionally well and now every single trick he can do, not only the simple ones. Someone new to Singed, I would say, wont perform bad though Singed also has some...''oddball'' tactics he can go with such as Proxy Singed.

Chogath Is my personal choice since he can fill the role of the middle lane and jungle as well.

He brings more utility that benefits the whole team. An AoE knock up that has a high AP ratio and a slow, but somewhat easy to dodge. Along with an AoE silence with a pretty high ratio as well. His passive makes his sustain pretty good as well. Although he is a tad immobile and has his cons.

I would look up maybe a video or two on how they play though, especially Singed since he has multiple ''play styles'' you can go with, and he can be much much more annoying than Cho'gath.

degastar1 votes

alright, thanks!

L Psy Kongroo2 votes

Teemo

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

Teemo Teemo

Fanny Forecast2 votes

Between the 3, Vlad is the one in the best state currently, but Lissandra is the most fun.

My recommendation: Top Karma with RoA and Serephs. Kicks ass.

Sire Hippington2 votes

Ryze , if truely mastered Lissandra Lulu Kassadin , as counterpick Fizz

swain and vlad both need a bit long to scale and are to vulnerable to ganks or all-ins of champs like fiora or darius early on

Dediguise1 votes

Nobody mentioned Chogath

MorganFreemanBot1 votes

Chogath murders everyone you listed but Swain.

Mundo1 votes

Also Dr. Mundo deals magic damage and pretty strong right now.

degastar1 votes

He's pretty much instabanned right now.

Mundo1 votes

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He's pretty much instabanned right now.

Just throwing it out there.

Nagma1 votes

Alistar im serious.

TouchpadExpert1 votes

Rumble is AP and is a very brutish fighter at that.

Alistar does work. He can be super annoying to any Nasus players, Riven players and Darius players. More of a nuisance than anything really.

Swain can be a real tough bully in lane.

Cho'gath can transform into a complete end game monster.

Graham is mobile, tanky, has finesse, decent long range damage, zoning and is incredibly disruptive in a team fight.

Crossette1 votes

Kennen

FurretHasAGlock1 votes

Try Kayle, and Teemo, AS/AP FTW *If you wanna try something fun, try full AP morg, RoA+Zhonyas then tank annie, and full AP sona (Rush lich bane)

Yuzuki Yukarin1 votes

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and full AP sona (Rush lich bane)

Or I could play full AP Riven, rushing Lich Bane. She's scales with it better.

FurretHasAGlock1 votes

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Or I could play full AP Riven, rushing Lich Bane. She's scales with it better.

Good point, my friend. Good point.

Guyy Fieri1 votes

Kennen is up there

LadyRenly1 votes

Vlad is really weak early game, I'd only play him if you are ok with the idea of possibly facing Rivens/Fioras trying to ignite all in you at level 1/2

Akali is still good, if you go sunfire into abyssal and hextech gunblade

You can build Rod of Ages on Tahm Kench top lane

Swain is still maybe good, haven't touched him since the nerf

Cho Gath can be built AP or tank, but he is annoying either way

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