So about Shyvana's Ult..

Zatono··25 votes·2,362 views

I think Shyv is in a pretty good spot right now, but it's definitely kind of annoying that you can be stopped mid flight by just about any disable. Any chance we can make her immune to CC mid flight? Or do you guys think that would be too much?

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Der Lindwurm10 votes

I really wish her fire breath actually did some serious damage, especially when she's actually in dragon form. That's how I feel about most abilities that place marks and that's where the real damage is supposed to come from, but especially in Shyvana's case.

"I'm a fire-breathing dragon, bitches! Now suffer minor discomfort and slightly singed eyebrows until I can hit you!"

Having it scale beefily with her max health in addition to AP would do the trick.

Zatono2 votes

If they did that they'd probably end up nerfing the mark or some other part of her kit

Crett1 votes

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If they did that they'd probably end up nerfing the mark or some other part of her kit

phpth. that's fine. all her abilities as a dragon should scale with her HP. make her actually beefy when she's doing it

Celeste Benal1 votes

She has a mark? What does that do? I never even noticed it. I just build her tanky and walk around like a living inferno hoping the enemy team focuses me instead of my carries.

YOLO420SWAGSCOPE1 votes

Her mark is the debuff that enemies hit by her E have which grants her 2% of the enemies max HP as on hit damage

Crett4 votes

one time, tried to jump out of a teamfight as shyvana. blitz grabbed me midflight right back in. this needs fixing

Romans VI XXIII3 votes

all none blink/flash dashes are like this, why should shys be different?

Its like grabbing a football out of the air, it does not continue on its direction when you grab it, it follows the path of your hands.

Romans VI XXIII1 votes

it is the same concept, you also have a MASSIVE steam golem pulling one of the objects out of the air, and a human pulling the others. IT is also simple dynamics if you really wanna get down to the knitty gritty.

WyvernEgg1 votes

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One of these things is not like the other.

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qetzel2 votes

Push the "Permalink" button then add to favourites if you really want to.

Poldy Scarecrow3 votes

Her ult deserves to be cc immune for the complete dash duration like Malph's or Vi's. It should have been since release imo. Also the hitbox needs to be fixed. A Texture Update wouldn't hurt either lol.

Embertine2 votes

I just wish her ult built off of damage rather than AP, I mean she is ramming into you after all.

BLU Medic2 votes

Not immune to CC, but maybe she gains tenacity while flying and for a couple of seconds afterwards, so Shyvana can get in there and kill things.

And maybe make her fire breath a cone shape rather than separate projectiles. Like Rumble's flamethrower or Cho'Gath's Feral Scream. She just turned into a dragon, we should be shitting bricks.

JustMyBassCannon2 votes

Gaining Tenacity during the flight would literally do nothing for her, as Tenacity only reduces the duration of CC, not actually fixing the problem of a massive fucking dragon being Lee Sin's ping-pong ball.

Kapppaccino2 votes

i love shyvana D: i remember the first time i saw her she came at me in a bush then she retreated back into the bush at 1/2 health and im like "ha thats right, run bitch" then i went to face check bush and a fucking dragon came out at me!!!! i was like " WHAT THE SCARY FUCK!!!! who the fuck is this!?!?! when did this champ join the game" needless to say she ate me :( took me like 50 games of enemy shyvanas to realize it was the same champ... she definetely can use immune to cc htough :p lol

Distractivated1 votes

50 games ... :/

Romans VI XXIII1 votes

I don't think she should be immune to CC no, but she should knock-back ALL enemies hit.

Voidac1 votes

Yeah, not immune to CC, but a little more knockback definitely wouldn't hurt. It'd make her ult much more rewarding.

Zatono1 votes

I would definitely take that.

SmknWdl1 votes

Shyvana's ulti has so much potential, but i think riot should change the hit box on her so that you can actually land the ult more than 20% of the time, and they should make the ultimate stun and knock back champions she hits.

LilxPaprika1 votes

Or add a slow after. Or just the stun like alistasr pulverize. Has a .5 sec stun after the knock up. Or where she lands it could have bigger area like Diana's q at the end is a circle. So shyv would have a circle. She can displace anyone she travels through to get to where she lands and knock up everywhere there. And since knock up might be reducible with tenacity it wouldn't be as strong. With a loud thomp sound effect has she lands

SmknWdl1 votes

Shyvana bae agrees with you

Rikari1 votes

aw hell no that would give Shyvana cc we can't have that btw it already knockbacks...er....knocks back.

SmknWdl1 votes

I meant like a better knockback... And lmao you sound like how i imagine the riot balance team sounds

SvenVvath1 votes

I would say no to immunity... but a stun if knocking enemies into a wall would be nice. She has no cc as it stands save the little knockback from the ult... which is a little counter-intuitive. She SHOULD be tanky for her team to dive in. But if your tank is flanking to knock the enemy into the team... then a chunk of y our front line is gone and the back line is more exposed. I could be wrong about that. But it's a pain to initiate dragon form and then have the enemy kite back while you're team watches trying to catch up. For counter initiation the knock back doesn't feel like enough peel if the fight started with the other team initiating since there are so many dive champs now. Not dive champs in META.. just dive champs. However, wall stun knockbacks could be great counter initiation and or just poor position punishment. Like fighting a rumble or Gnar in the jungle. I dunno.

B3ER1 votes

Has been asked for ever since her release. It seems that Riot doesn't care at all.

Zatono1 votes

Yeah I know, but this is relevant now more than ever with so many newer champs that have ways of messing her ult up.

iMaB3AST1 votes

Yea. U see a her ult like "I'M OUT OF HERE BITCHES" and then someone like blitz pulls her right back and hes like "NOPE". It's sad how thats her ultimate. :(

Jesus Died 4 You1 votes

I agree, wouldn't hurt for her hitbox on ult to be bigger either.

SooFr0sty1 votes

I say remove some of her damage on the ult, give immunity, add either more knock back or a leona ult style stun for when she lands. One or the other though I think, knock back or small stun radius without an outside slow. Having both may give push her over the edge.

ImHerVoice1 votes

her does hardly any damage already lmfao AND its magic AND it doesn't scale with AD

lol.

SooFr0sty1 votes

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her does hardly any damage already lmfao AND its magic AND it doesn't scale with AD

lol.

it does a decent amount of damage actually

ImHerVoice1 votes

I don't have issues with shy jungle. Least I didn't back when I played league.

though I always did hate jayce being able to "return to sender" bounce half the champions in the game with his bugged as fuck hammer

iMaB3AST1 votes

Imagine if her ultimate was like nid where she can change into her dragon form at 6 and when he has at least X amount of fury. If she has full fury, she flies to target location knocking back enemies with her or something like. Just a thought.

SooFr0sty2 votes

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Imagine if her ultimate was like nid where she can change into her dragon form at 6 and when he has at least X amount of fury. If she has full fury, she flies to target location knocking back enemies with her or something like. Just a thought.

That would break her as there is no point for her to be in human form.

BakugoBestBoy1 votes

I think Shyvana's ult is terrible OP, it needs an extra .75 second delay and some warning paticles like a shadow to show you where she's gonna land. Yeah. That sounds balanced...

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