Who would pay good money for a better (ranked) matchmaking system?

CilantroLL·May 23, 2015·4 votes·919 views

Who would? I would. I just want an even competitive playing field. Anyone else?

23 Comments

KãtãrinãMay 23, 20152 votes

I wouldn't pay because as it may not be perfect i feel it is a decent system.

SEKAIMay 23, 20152 votes

It's alright now really.

Solo queue has its grind elements, play Ranked 5s if you want absolute fairness.

KãtãrinãMay 23, 20151 votes

not even 100% fair there either usually lol :P

SEKAIMay 23, 20151 votes

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not even 100% fair there either usually lol :P

Well still it's way better than getting solo queue bombs though.

Deep Terror NamiMay 23, 20151 votes

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CilantroLLMay 23, 20151 votes

A grind... i've never thought of it that way. Its a nice thought... unfortunately, its not so much of a grind as in "play 100 games and i'll get where i should be". Its not really a grind when there are so many toxic-type players in your games, and by toxic.. i mean rage-quitters, trolls, those who "don't give a fuck", and those who are "smurfs so i don't care what happens to this account".

IcyPepperMay 23, 20152 votes

Climbing the ladder means you have to play against better opponents from time to time.

You would never complain if you played and won against weaker, lower elo opponents, would you?

zane yalgirMay 23, 20151 votes

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Climbing the ladder means you have to play against better opponents from time to time.

You would never complain if you played and won against weaker, lower elo opponents, would you?

the problem with that is like a teemo game i had two days ago

i told the ryze to focus on hp and mr since ryze has good wave clear and you can get hp mr and app all in two items... item 3001 item 3027

he went full ap with only a item 3027 and then cired i cant do anything.

i dont mine fighting better oppents. i cant stand when its a loss by feeding team. zac tried but due to the other 3 its was a bad jnugle pick and i got screwed fighting a gnar and gargas 1v2 while zac tried so damn hard to save our bot and mid form there selves it didnt work....

i lost my teir one trying to help rzye who came to lane and just basically walked to lane to get evaporated

i told him his pick was okay and he needed item 3001 item 3111 item 3027 item 3102 so he wouldnt feed.

i had two players attacking his pick and still defended him plus gave advice only to have him feed and bot also fed.....

CilantroLLMay 23, 20151 votes

I would love to play against better opponents, but its not so much that I'm losing to better opponents as I'm losing against my own team. I don't mind losing a fair match, but I don't fancy losing a match where I feel like I'm trying to carry a group of people who don't belong in this elo. Granted, I'm sure everyone complains about the same thing... it doesn't happen to everyone...but you have to agree that it does happen to some people. For that reason alone, the matchmaking/mmr/elo system should be taken a closer look at. I want ranked system where I feel like I'm challenged to play better and to learn new things in order to beat my opponents. I don't want a ranked system where I feel like I'm trying to push a 2 ton boulder up a steep incline because my team repeats the same mistakes over and over again, refuses to ward, "doesn't give a fuck", and runs into 1v3's when they can't even win 1v1s. A little common sense goes a long way, but I feel like in the majority of my games... my team doesn't even understand the concept.

Win-lose-win-lose-lose-lose-win feels about right, but when its 8-15 losses in a row.. there's something wrong with the system. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Even if you claim that its because I'm not good enough to carry my team, shouldn't my team be good enough to carry me? If not 50% of the time, at least 40%? 30%? Its just silly to get these players game after game. I'm not saying i'm perfect, I'm just saying that the matchmaking system could be improved and I'd love... and possibly contribute $$... to see it given the attention that it deserves.

zane yalgirMay 23, 20151 votes

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Who would? I would. I just want an even competitive playing field. Anyone else?

they need more restrictions when youve never played bruam and rush wards into item 3512 you are a very lost child

CilantroLLMay 23, 20151 votes

Now that they've implemented champion masteries, maybe they can set a minimum threshold for champion mastery before they can be used in ranked play.

zane yalgirMay 23, 20151 votes

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Now that they've implemented champion masteries, maybe they can set a minimum threshold for champion mastery before they can be used in ranked play.

would be nice that bruam drove me batty

ive also had a ryze i gave info to becuase he picked ryze into veigar. not only did he play worng and feed. the only thing he got from my advice was item 3027 and item 3001 he got the ap isntead of the mr first

and he got item 3020 i told him item 3111 was better

i got reported both games and i lost both games to clearly bad/troll players

CilantroLLMay 24, 20151 votes

I've lost count of how many games I've lost to ragers/afkers/trolls/leavers/feeders. Its part of the game and its true that it doesn't happen more than 30% or so, but it still hurts to have your progress halted or even regressed because of them.

EmollientNut0May 23, 20151 votes

I think this game should charge money in general. Like a $20 dollar starting fee, then we can watch the community get better overnight.

CilantroLLMay 23, 20152 votes

I don't think they should, but I do believe they should allow some sort of community feedback as to what we'd like to see. But even then, the majority of the players would rather vote for a sexier Ahri skin than a more even playing field. Nothing is perfect, I just want an improvement. But I do recognize the difficulty of making a "fair" game when its a "team game". Its a pity that it takes nearly the entire team working well together to win a game.. but it only takes one troll/feeder/rager/afker to lose a game. Don't get me wrong, I've won 4v5s before, but those are not generally how 4v5s turn out.

zane yalgirMay 23, 20151 votes

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I don't think they should, but I do believe they should allow some sort of community feedback as to what we'd like to see. But even then, the majority of the players would rather vote for a sexier Ahri skin than a more even playing field. Nothing is perfect, I just want an improvement. But I do recognize the difficulty of making a "fair" game when its a "team game". Its a pity that it takes nearly the entire team working well together to win a game.. but it only takes one troll/feeder/rager/afker to lose a game. Don't get me wrong, I've won 4v5s before, but those are not generally how 4v5s turn out.

its the exact reason i asked teachers and now supervisors to stop doing team based things.

always so fun to be the only one actually working out of sheer will of self preservation

CilantroLLMay 24, 20151 votes

It would be lovely to have a system that can tell how serious you are about winning/losing/try-harding based on their previous ranked performance. You might have a 0-8-5 game every once in awhile, but when its far too often, its a tell-tale sign. I'm sure there are more ways to improve on this idea, but i'm exhausted tonight.

EmollientNut0May 23, 20151 votes

They're almost never how they turn out, and if you win a 4v5 you really have to question why you were matched against those people to begin with. I almost never play ranked based on the amount of autolockers, feeders and AFK'ers, and the only solution I've actually come up with is charging people to play the game, and making a ban actually meaning something that way.

EmollientNut0May 23, 20151 votes

On a sidenote, why is your post getting downvoted so much? There's a lo of good points here lol.

CilantroLLMay 24, 20152 votes

Oh, cause the community is filled with sheep who abhor good suggestions. They blindly follow the "keep up a positive attitude and don't complain or give feedback and you'll be sure to rise in ranks" mentality. Nothing is ever perfect, everything can be improved. They shut down everything that resembles a complaint, because they think things are fine the way they are. They're trying to "stay positive" and downvote "negativity". I'm glad some people understand tho

EmollientNut0May 24, 20151 votes

I definitely understand, and that part always confuses me. Why report people ONLY when they leave the match entirely, which is what most people do? I'm sorry, bot if you go 0/9/2 in the toplane you're absolutely getting reported for intentionally feeding, because there's no WAY you made the same mistake 9 times in a row without it being on purpose. Any amount of positivity in the world isn't going to win you a 4v5 if you're actually matched against competent players.

CilantroLLMay 25, 20152 votes

Well, its understandable if it happens once in awhile. Once you're behind, its kinda hard to catch up... especially if your support refuses to ward or if the other lanes also lost. But if the match history states that its a consistent thing... maybe something else is up. As far as i know, Riot doesn't have anything in place that detects/polices that sort of thing.

EmollientNut0May 25, 20152 votes

It definitely can be hard to catch up, but if you use any form of tower play you can easily come back from even a 0/3. That's the worst part, I can deal with people's raging and sexist/racist/homophobic remarks because, well, welcome to the internet. I dislike them, but there's a mute button I can press. They've made no realistic strides to prevent the feeders from what they do on a regular basis. I'd rather have a teammate that's a bigoted idiot that wants to win than someone sitting there silently making Riot's game very LITERALLY unplayable.