Here is why Assassins are absolute bullshit and people say they skew the game too much

kittylover111·9/30/2019, 7:38:07 PM·9 votes·2,063 views

Posted is a clip of a 1/4 Talon 100-0ing a 4/1 Udyr INSTANTLY. Why are we rewarding assassins THIS GOD DAMN MUCH for going one and fucking four?

If a 1/4 assassin can blow a 4/1 juggernaut the fuck up, what chance does any squishy have vs an assassin with even a SLIGHT lead. This assassin was literally BEHIND and could do that.

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Z3SIeeper9/30/2019, 8:15:46 PM9 votes

Level 9 vs Level 9. I don't see a problem.

I'm assuming there's a reason we aren't shown their items too.

Edit: I found the game.

Here's Udyr's items at 14 mins item 1416 item 3111 item 3057 item 3101 (he also didn't take a single armor rune, went AS/AD/Health. Also running PtA)

Here's Talon's item 3077 item 3117 item 3147

Basically, that Udyr was squishy as hell. He also had 1 point in W at that moment.

Udyr had a 1k gold advantage, but gold advantage doesn't just mean you auto-win without proper itemization for the situation.

Pika Fox9/30/2019, 8:27:48 PM6 votes

More like "posted is a clip of a boosted as fuck udyr refusing to respect a champions all in thinking that just because theyre 4/1 they dont need to actually play the game properly. He is then quickly punished for over extending and playing like a boosted animal"

Also, k/d/a has nothing to do with strength, items and levels do. Doesnt matter if the talon is 1/4 if he was able to farm and udyr didnt punish or zone him.

preternatural9/30/2019, 7:41:59 PM5 votes

that udyr fucked up by using his shield before any dmg had been initiated. so yeah, he dies there, he fucked up.

Metal Janna9/30/2019, 7:41:31 PM5 votes

At level 9 any carry can one-combo anyone that isn't a tank, no matter how badly they did in lane.

This is a bad thing.

Śhunpo10/1/2019, 4:58:15 AM3 votes

All AD assassins are bullshit, and lethality is equally as bullshit. I'd be down to see them nerfed :)

50CaliberHecate9/30/2019, 7:42:28 PM3 votes

The only Assassins I ever see have issues if they fall behind is Zed, Evelyn and Katarina. It seems like Akali, Talon, Kha, and Pyke (not naming all the rest) for the most part don’t have issues against anyone if they fall behind other than maybe your major tanks (Garen mostly lol).

Darkdemon6539/30/2019, 8:35:36 PM3 votes

Udyr was at 79% health (1032/1341)
393 of the damage Talon dealt (~1000-1050 due to several minion hits) was from Ignite (only the initial damage and three ticks), Tiamat, Electrocute, Sudden Impact, and Scorch, and he had 9 additional AD from Absolute Focus (I don't feel like calculating the amount of damage that came from that). For defense, Udyr had 30 health from Overgrowth, 13 armor from Conditioning, and about 100 total shielding from Turtle Stance.
While I don't like it, assassins are early-game and mid-game champions. They fall off extremely hard as the game goes on and that falling off happens earlier and harder if someone buys even a Cloth Armor.

I would love to see assassins have some of their power spread out more but with how things are, there was nothing with Talon that was unreasonable.

WhyEvenBotherFR9/30/2019, 7:40:16 PM1 votes

depends on what the udyr was building. also udyr is hardly a juggernaut.

2Charmnot2Charm9/30/2019, 8:15:59 PM1 votes

Just because udyr is a melee champion doesn't mean he can't get bursted by assassins like anyone else that doesn't build tank.