More ADCs please

Rux100··2 votes·1,198 views

I recently decided to main as an ADC (instead of sup). I noticed that the amount of champions who can successfully fill the ADC spot is significantly less than champions who can fill any other spot on the rift. What I mean is: Out of the 132 champions in LoL (I've included Kled since he's close), the only champions who can be an ADC are Caitlyn Ashe Draven Ezreal Jhin Jinx Kalista KogMaw Lucian MissFortune Sivir Tristana Twitch Varus and Vayne. Thats 15 out of 132. If we take 15 and multiply by 5 (assuming all lanes have same amount of viable laners) we get 75, which is slightly over only half of the full LoL champion pool.

Some would argue that I forgot Corki Kennen Kindred Quinn Urgot and Teemo. Corki and Teemo are AP based, so can't be a true ADC. Kindred relies on taking jungle objectives to maximize her usefulness (if that's even a word) and that means stealing jg cs, and that means constant roaming for no more than just the mark. I've seen Kennen ADC more than the rest of these oddballs, but that means stacking atk speed since his physical dmg will be based on his W, and true ADCs like Twitch and KogMaw make much better use of atk speed than a Kennen ever could (lets not forget Vayne). Urgot is sadly out of the meta, so very rarely seen in solo Q or any ranked ques (last I checked he is the LEAST played champion in the game rn); he's on my oddball list for a reason: his ult is very counter-ADC of him. His ult shoots him straight from the bot lane to the top lane. The rest of his kit would be nice as an ADC, but for an ADC to have an ult that would voluntarily put sed ADC in harms way seems rather counter-productive. Best build sudo-tank. Lastly, Quinn is (in my opinion) the closest oddball to a true ADC. I suppose she could technically play the part, however with her ult and her blind her flanks can be legendary. In that, she makes a much better top laner than she ever would an ADC.

EVEN IF my oddball picks were true ADCs, that brings our total to 21 out of 132. Still way less than champions viable in other respective lanes. I welcome arguements to my analogy, I'm in no way an expert on crap (seriously, check my profile). These are my opinions based on what I see and understand. MOAR ADCs THOUGH!

24 Comments

disregardable4 votes

Your arguments on what makes an ADC are mostly invalid. I can't be bothered to explain why.

But the reason there are only a few ADCs is that ADC isn't just a position, it's a role. All ADCs do the same things. Whereas the other lanes are shared by champions that do different things: supports have tanks and healers, mid lane has assassins and mages, top lane has tanks and bruisers. You can consider ADC similar to those categories as opposed to "1/2 of bot lane".

Rux1001 votes

I welcome your arguement, can you be more specific? Give me an example of what you're talking about

sheldonbunny3 votes

Corki and Quinn are actual marksmen and have been played botlane for years. Just because you have an opinion doesn't change the fact of what they actually are. And you decided to exclude Urgot because he's out of meta? Pffft. That still doesn't mean that he doesn't count.

Hate to say it but you're full of excuses. Jhin is a recent marksman of this year so don't expect to see another until next year unless they increase their release rate. Considering the last time they released a new support, that seems more likely than anything.

Rux1001 votes

Urgot being out of meta wasnt my reason. His ult was. It's counter-productive, its puts him directly in harms way. Again just my opinion.

Rain NT3 votes

Corki has been played as ADC in competitive for 7 years lol and has been played both mid and adc for the past 2 years. Corki is definitely an ADC. Yes we do need more ADC, but imo its hard to make adcs, hard to make a champion that fits the same role as the rest of the adcs while making it unique while not crazy op or underpowered.

PulsarPollo1 votes

Corki scales with AD into Magic, so he is still AD. I don't know that you're talking about.

Rux1001 votes

Actually if you read his ability specifics, the only thing that scales with AD is his Gatling Gun. Everything else scales with AP.

majulito2 votes

Actually all of his moves scale with ad except valkyrie but the package scales with both. His gatling gun is the only thing that scales only with ad. His passive is his autos do half physical half magical. So he still wants to build ad but he deals mixed damage. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Corki

Rux1001 votes

His champion page literally spells out that all of his stuff deals magic damage. Specifically, where (besides his gatling gun) do you see "...deals physical dmg". His E does, and his basics are half n half. The rest is magic damage scaling with AP.

Votable Jester2 votes

Magic damage can scale with ad...

Take a quick look here.

Rux1001 votes

I take it the champion's page on lolesports isn't up to par? There it says Corki scales with just AP and deals magic damage (minus gatling).

majulito1 votes

You're confusing what it scales with with what it is output as. Scaling is what stats you would build to make it stronger. The output for an offensive move can be either physical, magical, or true. Corki's moves scale with attack damage and ability power but they deal magic damage. His gatling gun is the only one that does physical damage while scaling with only attack damage.

Rux1001 votes

Oh you know what I wasn't looking at the wiki page, I was hitting the Champion's link in the Game Info tab on lolesports. There it just says he scales with AP and deals magic damage (except gatling), but now that I'm looking at the wiki I see the AD scaling.

PulsarPollo1 votes

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Actually if you read his ability specifics, the only thing that scales with AD is his Gatling Gun. Everything else scales with AP.

Are you stupid? I'm not going to waste anymore time with someone like you. Get your facts straight xD.

Rux1002 votes

What the hell is that even supposed to mean "someone like me". We both play the game, we both enjoy the game, so what exactly do you mean by that? If I'm confused I expect to be corrected without implied insult. I can take criticism just fine, there's no need to be a jerk.

ON Corki, I was looking on the champions page on lolesports, not the wiki. And there it says everything scales with AP and deal magic damage (minus gatling). I notice on the wiki it says how he scales AD.

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

Kinda happy you didn't mention Graves, he's more of a mid-range fighter/bruiser and probably shares more in common with Gangplank than a traditional marksman in my opinion

sheldonbunny1 votes

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Kinda happy you didn't mention Graves, he's more of a mid-range fighter/bruiser and probably shares more in common with Gangplank than a traditional marksman in my opinion

Actually he did forget Graves as well. Commonality or not he's still a marksman. He just currently suffers in a duo lane and its better off in the jungle or top lane.

Rux1001 votes

Gnar and Azir are also marksmen. Should I have included them as well?

sheldonbunny1 votes

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Gnar and Azir are also marksmen. Should I have included them as well?

You'd be amazed what's viable botlane in the right players hands. However Azir is a secondary markman. All the ones I mentioned are primaries. In fact, Gnar is not listed as a marksman at all. Primary fighter, secondary tank.

http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/?filter=marksman

Jayce however is.

And at your skill level, not going to put much value on your opinion to be frank. You've not even dented 500 hours of playing on that account yet. There's plenty of marksmen, and there will be more in the future. Expect another one next year.

Rux1001 votes

Can you guys be more specific please. I know I'm relatively new and I know my opinions will suck from time to time, all I ask is that you actually teach me something instead of assuming whatever you know is over my head.

Please give me an example of what you're talking about?

EDIT: Gnar then used to be labelled marksmen. I know I saw it at some point.

WolfChases1 votes

NEVER! We really do not need another ADC because Assassins are gonna get gutted since their rework is on the board atm. Since there won't be any reliable punisher to kill an ADC with ease, we don't need yet another whiny overpowered piece of shit.

The entire class of assassins will probably loose their identity as a champions and as the assassin because of your whiny class. "Assassin killing an ADC in a second is not fair" Let me tell you something. Yesterday I played Miss Fortune and my Nautilus flashed and slowed Vayne and Jana, I have juat pressed R and NOTHING ELSE and got a double kill with a single spell on a almost full JP Vayne ans Jana because Naut had CDs so he could just slow them with his aoe thing. Not to mention Caitlyn Crits, Jhin's "3 shoot from China" ultimate, etc.

I literally hate every single person wjo asks Riot or thinks that ADCs need something more.

Gat real, If I am Riot I would make you 0 armor, 0 MR melee without mobility and would make all of your AA's a skillshoots. Damn ADC's always cryin'

Rux1001 votes

I read half of your comment and I will say I never said anything about assassins. So... idk what you're getting at.

WolfChases1 votes

I am juat pissed off and i dont want to hear anything about ADCs anytime soon. Like wtf literally 100 > 0 Vayne and Janna with a single MF ultinate with 1 and a half completed items + finished boots. And than Rengar comes, kills that Miss Fortune and MF player comes here on boards and cries, whines, cries, cut his vains, take a picture of him dying in a pool of blood and than he post his pictire here while theres ADC written on his forehead. GOD HOW MUCH I HATE ADC.....

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