How to counterplay Fiora?

Jotunheimr··3 votes·749 views

How does one counterplay fiora? I always have trouble. I build armor, she gets me. Lifesteal, she gets me. Focus movespeed on top of both of the last two, she's still faster than me( me having a movespeed quint and MS mastery with alacrity swiftness boots and deadman's)

Any advice? She always dominates me and my teammates, and I'd like to ne able to have better games when she is on the enemy team. Thank you.

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Rustling Bush5 votes

what above said

-for one, her lunge relies on if it hits a target or not, early game is has a longish cool-down, if she misses you can farm safely for a bit

-another thing is don't let her get free damage on you, if she lunges on you, don't be a pansy and run away or else the damage just add up, retaliate even if her trade was stronger you still did something to her and that will add up to.

-build armor, regardless of if or not she has %hp damage it will still help you mitigate most of her auto damage, item 3110 item 3022 item 3143 things that straight up lower her mobility and her AA speed does wonders.

riot hates tanks, your job is not to try and beat someone like hypercarry fiora (doesn't mean you can't beat her in lane), your job is to peel for your team, this is a team game, you do things as a team

NemeBro1 votes

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How does one counterplay fiora? I always have trouble. I build armor, she gets me. Lifesteal, she gets me. Focus movespeed on top of both of the last two, she's still faster than me( me having a movespeed quint and MS mastery with alacrity swiftness boots and deadman's)

Any advice? She always dominates me and my teammates, and I'd like to ne able to have better games when she is on the enemy team. Thank you.

You seem to think counter-building and counter-playing are synonymous. They aren't.

Who do you usually play into her?

Jotunheimr1 votes

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You seem to think counter-building and counter-playing are synonymous. They aren't.

Who do you usually play into her?

No, I'm talking of both. Resistinces for obvious resons; I've went ham on her, and also tried poking from afar. By counterplay I mean both builds and how to move your champion.

I tend to play Olaf and Morde mostly.

NemeBro1 votes

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No, I'm talking of both. Resistinces for obvious resons; I've went ham on her, and also tried poking from afar. By counterplay I mean both builds and how to move your champion.

I tend to play Olaf and Morde mostly.

Two immobile melee champions who stack a bunch of health. Fiora does very well against those types of champions. Mordekaiser is particularly fucked against her, but Olaf at least probably has periods early on where he can fight her, particularly levels 1 and 2 where she probably doesn't have Riposte yet. Try to trade on her when the Vital is facing away from her if you can, and if she goes in to trade on you always try to put some damage on her back. Olaf also has true damage, and at this point in the game your true damage burst should be better than hers.

Once she hits six she's far more dangerous, but I think Olaf can still win this. If she goes on you and ults, try to bait out her Riposte by throwing an axe, but throw it away from her so you can quickly run, catch it, and then use it again (this time on her) after she ripostes. Use your ult to escape if you really need to. Against Fiora I'd stack armour, health, and some AD (you don't need much, since she tends to build glass cannon).

But really, there are also other champions which perform better against her. I've had a lot of success with Wukong. He can do quick trades on her that leave little room for retaliation, and his burst is significant against her.

Pantheon is probably the single most bullshit lane for a Fiora to play. Not only is his early game among the strongest top, but his passive blocks her Vital Strikes. Even from her Q. The only thing you have to be really wary of is her riposte'ing your stun, but other than that the lane is ez (take crystalline flask since Pantheon is one of the most mana hungry motherfuckers in the game and run Ignite to kill her and snowball).

Tryndamere doesn't necessarily beat her in lane, but he's one of the full champions who can duel a full build Fiora. He can do it easily.

Rito Staff1 votes

Try a mage top vs tanks/juggernauts. A long range one like Vel'koz. I've played him vs Tryndamere, Darius and Fioras so far and I usually bully them out of the lane. The only problem will be mana so try not to miss your spells early.

Anyways, if they try to go for it and chase you down you have an easy to land slow and a knock-up, also, once someone is after you it's 100% sure you'll hit everything on them, proccing passive 2 times. Vel'koz deals true damage btw.

Even if Fiora parries your slow you have the knock-up. If she somehow parries the knock-up don't get hit by the parry and slow her after.

And since a Vel'koz is rare they wont know how to fight you so bonus points right there.

Once they're at or below 40%~ you can ult I think.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

I think that Yasuo is good vs her, until 2-3 items. Then he gets 1shotted. She can't win lane vs Warwick.

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

You can't. Unless you play a full HyperTank like Lmaokai or Malphite Loaf or PedoVolibear,you won't be able to even have a chance of beating her. She will still get you even without her passive. She will Outrade you no matter what. She will slow your attack speed or ignore your nukes if you try to duel her. You can't escape her unless you are Yi Or have a teleport,seriously not even Riven can escape fiora. She also avoid ganks easily. She doesn't need any mechanics or skill to do all of the above. She can dodge fucking ignite and everything in this game. Eventually she will mark you to death,the heal is not important to her,the damage is. Weaknesses:None except she deals no damage without being in melee range,and her ult can be removed with qss. Don't EVER try to duel her,EVER for the following reasons; Not a single champ in this game have sustained damage to beat fiora,her entire kit is made to fuck you up. *she has perma slow and guaranteed crit. *if you are a tank,she kills tanks fast thanks to her broken passive and ult. *if you are sustained damage dealer or an assassin,she can mitigate high burst and all damage,plus she reduces your attack speed/stun you.

  • if you are foolish enough to try,you won't escape you and she will chase you until you die,even if she magically sucks there's a low risk you can catch her

She is basicly like riven:Don't duel her,Don't 1 v 2 her,Don't 1v3 her if she's over 4/0 and high farm,except riven requires minimal brain power while fiora requires none.

I will tell you my secret way to atleast try to kill her;Fuck their tanks,Fuck their carries,Fuck their assassins,focus fiora NO MATTER WHAT and tell your entire team to get qss.

Poorly Dressed1 votes

I have seen people destroy Fiora with Ryze multiple times. Not sure if he fits your style though :)

Jotunheimr1 votes

Hmmm, Ryze, huh.. His stun plus AP burst sounds like a good plan.

Yeah, I more than likely do poorly against her as a favor melee champs a bit. I played a game today where she was low, and I had about double her health as Olaf with arm pen, lifesteal, and armor, but nope she killed me in a few seconds and walked away with almost full health. This was reletivly early, too. Than she roamed, snowballed, and just destroyed people. Kinda funny, acually. The summoner knew what thet where doing.

On another note, I can counter all 3 juggernauts with Olaf. Build resistances, speed, and get at least 2lifesteal items. If they go armour, which they will for deadman's I up my true damage. M i lking lifesteal allows me to outsustain say, a Darius. I do AD reds and quints, cdr blues, and armor yellows; start flask, 2 health pots and a mana potion for sustain since masteries (21/9/0) and runes let me start 81 AD, which is good for Olaf early as q and e scale with damage, if my memory serves me correctly.

Anyways, I should pick up Ryze, you're right. If she can't move, she can't hit vitals. Plus AP damage cheese.

Although I've heard a lot of people say Ryze is weak atm. I destroy him with Olaf, but have seen ONE Ryze who was very good with him, and mopped the floor with people.

Jotunheimr1 votes

I refuse to say a champ has counterplay. I've learned what it takes to play against "OP" champs like Yasuo, Morde, Darius, Garen, Hiemerdinger, and Yi. It's cool to buy them, learn how they work, when thier cooldowns are, when they are most vunerable, and dodge shots. They are not so OP when you know how they work. I do play Olaf, as I have true damage when needed, sustainability, and a ranged skillshot(although it burns mana hella fast).

But Fiora.. Damn. Those 3 STILL aren't enough, lol, and Tanklof has nowhere near the damage to kill her, but Hamlof dies crazy fast. Bruiserlof is okay, but she still wins, by nust a little. Looks like a job for ignite!!

That Ryze counterpick sounds brilliant tho. Better have CDR blues for better access to stuns, I'd think.

Valor Simulator1 votes

Coming from a bit of a fiora main ( i played her a lot before she got reworked and even now) all you have to do is play Malphite Pantheon Singed Yorick TryndamereTeemo and you win especially if you playPantheon. I'd be happy to elaborate more if you have any questions

Ralanr1 votes

I've brought up Pantheon a lot and people say she'll just farm enough after lane to get fed. That true or can Pantheon shut her down enough to mess her up?

In my experience (I main Pantheon, but I play normals so take this with a grain of salt) I've always shut her down hard. I actually enjoy fighting her because she encourages smart usage of my passive.

Valor Simulator1 votes

Your right panth completely shuts her down and its the passive that lets him shut her down so hard (and the fact that he can just spam spears if he starts flask and some mana pots) because if she goes in to Q a vital well his passive is up it will proc the vital and the shield but wont do damage and his stun is incredibly hard to predict

Edit: I only play normals as well so...

Mr Broken Wings1 votes

Counterplay is not counteritemization. You try to..."counterplay" fiora with building armor? Think before you write, thank you. She has a lot of things that you can play around, her passive, her w, her ult. Actually there is a lot of counterPLAAAAAAAAAAY and thats why counterbuilding is not an option and thats WANTED from riot. ( while I disagree with that and think that she shouldnt heavyly rely on true damage) Guys, if you want to circlejerk make threads that make sense, disgusting to read shit like that.

LaowPing1 votes

Walking into a bush resets the location of her passive.

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