Quick question about shaco

Moonshadow24··1 votes·648 views

How come when in the patch notes it says that the balance department doesn't like how he can burst from stealth, yet the keep the stealth time and gut his damage and force him to a bruiser role? Also if i may add, how come riven's ability to wait in a bush for a minute or two, pop someone like a zit, and walk away considered balanced and when shaco does it, it's considered crazy broken and unbalanced? I know that shaco needed the nerfs but reducing the stealth on Q instead of taking the damage would've been more than enough in my opinion. I'd just like a rioters opinion maybe and a discusion can form about my beloved dead champion

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Asayake 5150glow3 votes

Because Riven needs to spend a minute in the bush.

Garen can do the same.

Meanwhile Shaco just trolls over a wall.

Moonshadow241 votes

Riven trolls over walls too and with an ad scaling shield. i'd say that's pretty strong and it's the only one in the game

Asayake 5150glow2 votes

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Riven trolls over walls too and with an ad scaling shield. i'd say that's pretty strong and it's the only one in the game

Are you seriously comparing Riven's wallhop to Shaco's Q?

Get this. Shaco doesn't even need a wall to teleport right in front of you. He can also get over actually big walls.

Shaco has a flash + invisibility on a basic ability. It's also the only one in the game,

SwiftKitten882 votes

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Are you seriously comparing Riven's wallhop to Shaco's Q?

Get this. Shaco doesn't even need a wall to teleport right in front of you. He can also get over actually big walls.

Shaco has a flash + invisibility on a basic ability. It's also the only one in the game,

while at the same time having a clone and a invisible box that can CC you.

i would rather chase a Singed than a Shaco

LyingOnLine2 votes

"Waaaaaah, why isn't Shaco broken anymore?"

They might not have been perfect nerfs, but they sure were good nerfs.

Moonshadow241 votes

I dont like it when shaco is broken either since that means i dont get to play him, but making him near unplayable is kinda silly, much like your post :^)

LyingOnLine2 votes

Oh yes, so unplayable that he's maintaining a 51+% winrate. Oh poor you, that you must suffer such indignities!

Smilinmaniag2 votes

bronze players do not want to play around shaco kit, and they are majority of the league. Shaco jumped to high winrate just because he is played by shaco mains, who were able to fit in the meta now due to tank items being super efficient (and lethality items broken at some point)

even if you remove ALL damage from shaco's kit, bronzies will still die to thunderlord+sunfire damage+sheen proc. Riot doesn't want to adress tank items porblem for now, it is easier to keep majority satisfied by gutting one of the champs, rather than whole fucked up system.

At the same time, they don't want to nerf truly broken shit like Ivern, because they think he has counterplay. Yes he does, but it doesnt make him less broken.

Moonshadow241 votes

I just wish that riot would have an acutal balance team above silver and for these bronze idiots to stop screeching at me lol

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