Nobody's going to talk about Shaco's winrate/current state?

HA I am Shaco HA·2/12/2019, 4:22:31 PM·17 votes·17,679 views

Shaco went from 55% winrate to 49.85% winrate in the space of about 3-4 patches without the champion himself being touched, but do you know what did get touched on? The items and runes he uses and even the role he is mostly played. Tiamat nerfs, Dark harvest nerf/Rework, jungler nerfs and soon to come by the looks of it, fleet footwork nerfs. Hey, just goes to show how item reliant riot has made him, champ is struggling, do something about him pls. I've said this many times before but make his Q a 3 second duration at all ranks, but make it a 0 radius camouflage, this change takes off 1.5 seconds from his stealth late game and makes him visible to control wards adding counterplay to ganks or teamfights, then proceed to change his E back to magic damage and increase the ap ratio by 10% leave everything else alone. It's the best change riot could make to him

29 Comments

honorablenoob2/12/2019, 4:34:57 PM26 votes

a 50% win rate is ideal. It is a good trend if he stays where he is. 55% win rate is almost in need of a hotpatch so...

UlyssesISR2/13/2019, 8:43:06 PM10 votes

No champion should have a 55% win rate, so this is a good thing.

Hethalean2/12/2019, 5:06:33 PM7 votes

He's 50% win rate. Honestly, I'm glad a 55% win rate champion that isn't 'just the mains playing him' when it's mechanically complex like Shaco (3% play rate isn't just mains)... 55% win rate is far too high especially for those people with not many games on him (1-50 games)

LTK KoRo2/14/2019, 7:24:13 AM6 votes

As a player who played tons of Shaco during s5-s7:

He's now only a items delivery system, and he's like that since his rework (or post-rework nerfs). Seriously. Shaco doesn't have any early power at all, and his kit doesn't scale by itself. Shaco abuses tons of on-hit/active burst items like Duskblade, Triforce, Statikk, Gunblade, whatever is stronger in a patch. He feels miserable to play, just because when you're playing Shaco you aren't playing Shaco, you're playing Duskblade, and he feels miserable to play against since being bursted from stealth is not fun. Deep wards works wonders vs him, but otherwise he bursts people.

koshkyra2/14/2019, 10:30:53 PM2 votes

Uhhh?

Hes fine at 55% but 50% is underpowered?

How delusional is this playerbase lmao

Daddy Ants2/15/2019, 10:37:20 AM1 votes

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soon to come by the looks of it, fleet footwork nerf

Source?

Krylon2/14/2019, 11:53:39 AM1 votes

What are the nerfs coming to FF? I haven't heard/read anything about it :o

IP Masquerena2/14/2019, 2:35:13 PM1 votes

Odd, I'm seeing him at 52% wr at 5% pr, but w/e.

Now, I get it, losing 12% wr in the matter of days is something big, but it's not quite the reason you specify it. Since Shaco is my main ban, I regularly check his stats just to see if I should still ban him for the off chance of a Shaco player. Mid patch 9.2, after all the jungle nerfs, etc, I saw him at 60% wr with 7% play rate, and a few days before 9.3 hit, when checking again, he had a 6% play rate but only 48% wr. There was no hotfix for anything related to him during the patch, but something happened.

It wasn't all the jungle and item nerfs from 9.2, because as I said, he did have a 60% wr at one point in the middle of the patch with a decent play rate of 7%, so it clearly was not the item and xp nerfs, but something else, as losing 1-2% wr in a few days on a champ with over 55% wr not something uncommon, but losing 12% when the player base got lower is something else entirely.

DarwinTheory2/14/2019, 8:29:14 PM1 votes

Guess nobody in this threads played v shaco top.

Fuck him. Legit. Let him rot. 50% is healthy enough heck Yasuos on 51 to 53 % depending on sources.

Zeppelins circus2/15/2019, 2:32:24 AM1 votes

"Nobody's going to talk about Shaco's winrate/current state?"

Yes, we do not want to talk about Shaco until his due rework. Seriously.