Revert Stealth, Remove/Rework Duskblade, compensate Ad assassins and revert Shaco

HA I am Shaco HA··6 votes·1,249 views

Stealth was a horrible change and made certain champions annoying to deal with, such as Shaco. Because of balanced reasons, Shaco and maybe some others got their damage nerfed for balanced reasons but this made Ad assassins reliant on Duskblade but this caused more problems because when ad assassins got fed, counter play went too damn slim for squishies. Champions with invisibility should not be able to 1 shot within 0.5 seconds, it is not ok. Duskblade is just an item every Ad assassin is reliant on tbh and should just be removed from the game or reworked to something more healthy for the game, then compensate the assassins who used it. Back to the stealth topic, mostly targeting the invis champs, the only true counterplay to them is Ninja tabi's or Oracles which doesn't even let you attack them. Bringing back old stealth and pink wards would help lanes prevent being ganked by Shacos or Wukongs etc, this way they have to gank smarter. On to the final topic. Can Shaco please have a revert... the champion was gutted on his assassin update and had his early game completely removed, weaker passive, weaker E, weaker Q and weaker R, right now you have to wait till you hit your late game so you are a one shot machine which is not fun for the Shaco and not fun for the enemy, it's not entertaining to walk up to someone and backstab, E them for a free kill or you could play AP deal no damage on your very weak E that deals physical damage so you have to build lethality to deal damage when you build AP, Old Shaco was overall very fun, he could be played AD or AP and still perform well, he had a good early game and fell off late game, and best of all HE COULD BE COUNTERED BY PINK WARDS. Thank you for reading.

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Butterwood3 votes

I used to main Shaco with a 65%+ WR but have stopped this season due to an under 45% WR. Even with a 2 or 3 kill lead early-mid game he is outdueled 1v1 by almost all enemy junglers. Shaco is still weak lategame and all but useless in teamfights, so he's really more of a utility champion than an assassin since the rework.

Cotten Eyed Joe1 votes

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made Ad assassins reliant on Duskblade but this caused more problems because when ad assassins got fed, counter play went too damn slim for squishies. Champions with invisibility should not be able to 1 shot within 0.5 seconds, it is not ok. Duskblade is just an item every Ad assassin is reliant on tbh and should just be removed from the game or reworked to something more healthy for the game, then compensate the assassins who used it. Back to the stealth topic, mostly targeting the invis champs, the only true counterplay to them is Ninja tabi's or Oracles which doesn't even let you attack them. Bringing back old stealth and pink wards would help lanes prevent being ganked by Shacos or Wukongs etc, this way they have to gank smarter. On to the final topic. Can Shaco please have a revert... the champion was gutted on his assassin update and had his early game completely removed, weaker passive, weaker E, weaker Q and weaker R, right now you have to wait till you hit your late game so you are a one shot machine which is not fun for the Shaco and not fun for the enemy, it's not entertaining to walk up to someone and backstab, E them for a free kill or you could play AP deal no damage on your very weak E that deals physical damage so you have to build lethality to deal damage when you build AP, Old Shaco was overall very fun, he could be played AD or AP and still perform well, he had a good early game and fell off late game, and best of all HE COULD BE COUNTERED BY PINK WARDS. Thank you for reading.

K first off. I feel like people don't understand what assassins do so let me explain the simplest way I can. Assassin job is to kill squishy. If squishy not dead, assassin not do job. K? You can't complain about burst damage from assassins on squishies when the reason squishies get bursted is cause they're____? FInish the question? SQUISHY. Champs with invis shouldn't be able to one shot what? Then what would invis be used for? The point of invis is to sneak up and kill. Secondly, no counter to invisibility besides oracles what? Uhhhhhh, that's what invis is supposed to do...? It's to conceal yourself to either escape or get a kill. And all invis targets are still targeted by Tower(except akali w). Shaco also doesn't have a weak early... he has a weak mid game... no you don't wait till late game, you invade and try to pick up first blood, something u can't do with weak early game champions. Dark Harvest is used on Shaco to help with his less than favorable late game. Also your backstab E for free kill doesn't work until late late game. LMAO HE COULD BE COUNTERED BY PINKWARDS!!! This made his ganks so much worse. You're simply complaining about assassins most likely because you play squishy champs and don't understand what assassins do. Duskblade isn't healthy? What part of if isn't healthy? The damage boost when you're unseen? The ward killing ability? The extra damage to help assassins do what assassins are supposed to do? You're trying to fix this game by making assassins irrelivent.

HA I am Shaco HA2 votes

When I say remove or rework Duskblade, it's because some ad assassins rely too heavy on it to deal damage, such as Shaco, I would much prefer Shaco himself doing damage over an item being his damage. Compare Shaco's old E and Shaco's Current E, before Shaco E had good base damage and was useful, right now Shaco E is really weak and does negative damage until you are REALLY fed

Frosted Tips1 votes

Do not Revert stealth. Stealth was so terrible before. It cost oneitem 2055 and you countered all stealth. Akali W was legit not an ability back then. Shaco Q was pretty bad. Leblanc passive sucked. Kha didn't have an ult practically.

HA I am Shaco HA2 votes

It meant assassins had to play smarter and actually take out pink wards or force the enemy to fill a slot to buy one. But the assassin still did their damage which was used, to take out important targets in fights, Shaco's damage was taken away from him, and then Duskblade came along to fill his damage he was missing.

Frosted Tips1 votes

No because if anyone just held on to a pink ward and used it right as the fight started then there was nothing stealth champion can do.

HA I am Shaco HA1 votes

At least it helped other players survive, if you hadn't caught on already I'm a Shaco main but I'm talking about these things.

Frosted Tips1 votes

Removing a champions ability is not the way to make the game healthy. If you think stealth should be reverted then you should just state what you really want, which is to just remove it entirely.

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