Why is Brand's base MP5 so high? Isn't this what's keeping him botlane?

Variable Æ·3/29/2018, 6:34:03 PM·1 votes·307 views

He has 8 MP5 at level 1, while every other mid mage besides Taliyah has 6 (she has 7, as does Galio if you count him as a mage). It doesn't sound like much, but it adds up, especially when looking at Brand support with Spellthief's.

Zyra and Morgana have 11.5, but they seem to have been balanced around being supports, who have high regen to compensate for not being able to use Doran's Ring in their main role, among other things.

If you want to actually move Brand out of the support role and not just half-ass it (giving him a mana refund on killing ablaze units without actually lowering his costs or his MP5 at all, which ends up accomplishing basically nothing in terms of moving him out of support), maybe this would be a good place to look?

There's also the matter of base damage versus scalings, but adjusting MP5 is probably easier.

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KirotheImmortal3/29/2018, 6:38:56 PM1 votes

You asume they want brand out if support. they have been pushing him for support sence post mage update. They want more champs lile him support rn.

Sona Ping3/29/2018, 6:39:55 PM1 votes

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** Why is Brand's base MP5 so high? Isn't this what's keeping him botlane? **

He has 8 MP5 at level 1, while every other mid mage besides Taliyah has 6 (she has 7, as does Galio if you count him as a mage). It doesn't sound like much, but it adds up, especially when looking at Brand support with Spellthief's.

Zyra and Morgana have 11.5, but they seem to have been balanced around being supports, who have high regen to compensate for not being able to use Doran's Ring in their main role, among other things.

If you want to actually move Brand out of the support role and not just half-ass it (giving him a mana refund on killing ablaze units without actually lowering his costs or his MP5 at all, which ends up accomplishing basically nothing in terms of moving him out of support), maybe this would be a good place to look?

There's also the matter of base damage versus scalings, but adjusting MP5 is probably easier.

And if MP5 is the reason for lane differences, how would having better stats than the competition keep him out of mid? Also, no it isn't.

Azadethe3/29/2018, 8:28:57 PM1 votes

That's not why Brand is doing well. Brand is also oppressive mid. The burn buff just makes him destroy and able to harass the entire game. 2 skills hitting level 2 is almost a certain kill. That's how overtuned he is atm.

Variable Æ3/29/2018, 9:01:52 PM1 votes

Oh look, ONCE AGAIN I get fucking downvoted.

I swear to fucking god, I am fucking SICK of being downvoted.

EVERY ACCOUNT, EVERY FORUM, EVERYWHERE, IT'S THE SAME FUCKING THING. STOP DOWNVOTING ME YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT.