Zoe = Garbage After Nerf

Snow Day Zoe·3/1/2018, 6:47:24 AM·4 votes·3,089 views

OH WOW A FUN CHAMPION THAT LOOKS LIKE CANCER

Loved the champion at first sight, bought her and got mastery 7 in a week since her release.

I know the champion was cancer and all the non-Zoe players despised the damage at any point in time in the game.

After a couple of patches, Zoe got adjusted, where she can't use abilities while in her R and also can't use her second Q after 0.5 seconds for extra range, which it made Zoe's QQR combo a lot clunky, but I just adapted to the change.

But this patch, I knew Riot made a bad choice of making a champion that has all the damage source in one single ability.

Q - Paddle Star BASE DAMAGE 45/75/105/135/165 ⇒ 45/60/75/90/105 RATIO 0.40 ability power ⇒ 0.20 ability power Paddle Star no longer applies More Sparkles' damage to enemies past the first hit

Nerf her base damage and also decreased her AP scaling by** 50%**.

Now she can't even one shot ranged minions at level 9 at a maxed range.

patch 8.3s normal max ranged Q does more damage than patch 8.4s slept max ranged Q.

Now, what does that say about Zoe?

GARBAGE.

since she has no lane push, she has barely any roaming potential, which was her biggest and the most crucial part, also lost her lane trading, and now basically gets countered by every single mid laner, and most importantly, she lost her artillery teamfight potential.

She just does no damage.

They could have just nerfed the E to not x2 any damage incoming to x1.4 so people don't complain about getting one shotted.

They are honestly getting rid of every single point of playing this champ.

30 Comments

SEKAI3/1/2018, 9:11:49 AM5 votes

She is fundamentally broken in terms of her design itself, and is probably the most broken champ in this regard yet; she should've never been released.

vgamedude3/1/2018, 7:07:01 AM5 votes

There is no point in playing her anymore. She has horrendous wave clear, she has no burst, she runs out of mana when she can clear (although anyone can out shove her), she has zero mobility, and no defense. Oh and her moves are ridiculously telegraphed and her R is frequently a death sentence.

Thanks for ruining a fun and unique champion riot because of the qq babies!

Dope Solo3/1/2018, 7:11:01 AM3 votes

To be fair, she was garbage before the nerf, just a different kind, more like radioactive toxic waste.

PeachyPosterior3/1/2018, 12:59:35 PM2 votes

She's getting a buff coming up for some power back in her kit. She feels bad to play right now, but she really isn't. As long as you know when to go in and when to back I can have my enemy shoved after 6 easy, and I'm not even out of bronze yet.

Hellmaximus13/1/2018, 7:38:31 AM2 votes

When riot made zoe, that made a mistake in not canning her the moment it hit the drawing board, whoever thought going back on design changes and making a 1 shot ability like oldschool nidalee with more mobilty and ultity was a good idea is an idiot.

Riot has decided to drop the whole sunk cost of trying to fine tune her into being balanced for 1 patch just into she broken again 4 patches later when someone the meta changes, they rather not make another mistake, so they removed everything that made zoe busted, including the NON-removeable sleep that can last up to 2.5 seconds, the GRACE PERIOD on her QQR combo (0.5 secs), the 50% cd refund on her Unique 2.5 sec cc, her insane wave clear, her q being able to 1 shot even tanks MID-GAME, and of course removed the really strong variable of getting Teleportsummoner 12 from minions.

Now if this champion can't hold up without all of these INSANELY strong UNIQUE elements of her gameplay than she deserve to be trash tier. It's exactly like nidalee, if nerfing oldschool nidalee's q into the ground makes her obsolete than that is not good champion design or kit.

Ahri Baka3/2/2018, 1:56:28 AM2 votes

Take an as an advice and don't try to discuss with a community that still bans a 40% winrate champion Zoe is the 3rd most banned champion right now

KnotSoPro3/27/2019, 12:08:29 PM1 votes

zoes a pos and riot should really work on scaling. I know they think their algorithm for scaling is useful but it doesn't work on all champs. Zoe is one of the pos champs with too many abilities to spam and no cd on half of them. Its a joke. Since when does riot condone placing lqbqt champs in a video game? No need to go metro riot, people will still play and pay money. Don't be "that" video game

Onotori3/3/2018, 11:35:42 AM1 votes

I've actually been playing Zoe quite a bit, and I've been having a lot of fun and doing well with her. I rarely lose lane, and I'm able to trade / poke in lane like a monster, and then I roam since my enemy laner backs off and lets the wave push.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Aitsuki

I don't always win, since Zoe never really could carry (even before nerfs), but she's still doing fine if you know how to play her without relying on one shots.

Malix Farwin3/1/2018, 1:26:45 PM1 votes

What they will likely do with Aoe to be honest is slowly buff her up to where she was before but people will just forget about it.