Noob needs some understanding of items plz help :D

FloweyTheFlower··2 votes·840 views

What Purpose Does the item 3508 have and who do i use it on? Also why does it build the exact way the item 3072 do but this cost more?

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Jamaree1 votes

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What Purpose Does the item 3508 have and who do i use it on? Also why does it build the exact way the item 3072 do but this cost more?

It is meant to help champions with mana problems that also want life steal. Because it does both things, it in turn cost a bit more since with each AA (and abilities that deal on hit effects), you get both health and mana back.

SlytherMinn1 votes

item 3508 is for champs that need to sustain mana points, those who spam their spell abilities quickly to damage opponents. Think Annie

item 3072 is for champs that need to sustain health points, the melee "skirmisher" who doesn't use mana but outlasts the opponent through brute force. Think Tryndamere

Direwolfiez1 votes

Eh, Annie isn't that good of an example. Sivir is a better one; she benefits from both the mana and life steal. Basically, most AD caster carries, like Ezreal, Corki and Sivir would benefit the most from Essence Reaver, but it's not really good enough to warrant a purchase because by the time you have enough gold, your regen is good enough that you can usually spam without it.

SlytherMinn1 votes

Agreed, I tried to keep it to noob champs for clarification.

Direwolfiez1 votes

Ah, wasn't sure if you knew good examples or not. Sorry, I'm pretty tired, and that possibility went over my head, for some reason. Didn't meant to imply you were a noob or anything.

RogueWill1 votes

I will think Ashe so she can keep the slow permanently on.

SlytherMinn1 votes

Cooldowns are still a thing.

RogueWill1 votes

What cooldowns? as long as she keeps attacking with her Q toggles on she will keep slowing.

Ardent Slurt1 votes

what he said^ but item 3508 isnt built on many champions because it takes away from Life steal that BT gives or that you could use to build better items like IE. the only champions i can see using are urgot and ezreal

DisasterSola1 votes

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what he said^ but item 3508 isnt built on many champions because it takes away from Life steal that BT gives or that you could use to build better items like IE. the only champions i can see using are urgot and ezreal

Essence reaver is an AD caster item to solve solo-lane mana problems. Its not bought on bottom lane ADs because IE is a larger powerspike.

Basically the BF sword rundown for rush is: ER if youre slightly behind or evenly matched and cant afford a BT or an IE (if you need the powerspike NOW - in the case of varus, ER is a very powerful first item)

BT if youre slightly ahead and have the money for it (Mostly only for top lanes and middle lane AD casters)

IE if youre any ADC who is ahead.

@direwolf In the previous season it was true ER was...useless. But in this season, mana heavy AD casters (every skill costs 60~80 mana) can utilize ER to great effectiveness. But in the bottom lane, you dont need to harass so the early powerspike from the cheaper essence reaver is more or less useless. In a solo lane though, that ER can force your opponent out of lane because you have constant mana and high damage.

SlytherMinn1 votes

IE is item 3031 (Infinity Edge)

DisasterSola1 votes

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IE is item 3031 (Infinity Edge)

I.... yes? I know this? Why do you feel the need to point it out o.O

SlytherMinn1 votes

Because you're answering a noob's question and using acronyms and jargon that they don't understand. Know your audience.

DisasterSola1 votes

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Because you're answering a noob's question and using acronyms and jargon that they don't understand. Know your audience.

... its been explained before, earlier in the thread. And if he knows the names of half the BF sword items, he probably knows the rest.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

gotta assume everyone is dumb ;l this is league man...

DisasterSola1 votes

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gotta assume everyone is dumb ;l this is league man...

... Youre right. Not everyone has the luxury of playing with the PBE community. :P Helpful and kind SOBs on PBE, man.

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