Fiora's new kit is very unbalanced.

Illıum··4 votes·1,609 views

I just played a couple custom 1v1's with my friend since he wanted to try out fiora. I realize now just how over powered she is. Her dashes and jukes are fine, the parry could use a bit of work, I'll get into it, and her new ult brings a new level of skill to her rather than the old "Ult and pray." But in the hands of anyone competent she's way too strong.

To start with, her parry. I'm fine with the blocking of damage from autos, but she blocks all damage from all sources except spawn tower. She basically has Kayle's ult for a second, as her w. If it were to only dodge auto attack damage I feel like that would be more in-line with the other champs who have damage negating moves.

Second, her true damage. It's really high. When I say really high, I mean she did 1600 true damage to me when I played a tanky hecarim against her. That was with just 2 auto attacks. I had near 250 armor and over 4000 health. But with 2 autos I was nearly dead as her base damage is ridiculously high anyway. I'm not even going to say anything about her true damage poke anytime she wants because of the vulnerable markers.

Thirdly, right now the damage she does from true damage seems to be critically striking with her e -___-

Whether you're playing as a tank, a mage, an assassin, a fighter, or a marksman Fiora has you beat. Her burst of true damage will beat any tank or fighter. Since she's an assassin she'll naturally be strong against marksman's and Mage's. The only way to have any hope of beating her is as an assassin yourself, where her parry will block most of the damage anyway.

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Critmaster Garen3 votes

shes a melee adc.

she doesnt have the comfort of attacking from behind a support and a tank shielding her from harm like her ranged counterparts. so she needs a lot of outplay potential and equally large payoff in damage to make up for it.

yea, her kit is insanely strong. but on the flipside it requires a lot of micromanagement, mechanical skill and timing to pull off.

she needs to be able to dodge the correct ability from ger opponent by reacting in a split second. she needs to move around her opponent, while hes trying to move into a position where she cant attack his vitals.

overall a perfectly played fiora can probably 1v1 anyone she wants. on the other side a small mistake means her death.

BlackEyesBlue2 votes

Agreed.

I was pretty indifferent to old Fiora, Played her a few times, felt pretty meh. :/ New Fiora on the other hand, I've played her around 20 times and have NEVER lost my lane!

I may be a bronze who's NEVER played a ranked game, but I know what makes a strong champ!; and Fiora now has everything she needs!

Played poorly, she's terrible, played well, she's a force! 1 v 1 ,I feel like she could win against anyone! (pretty appropriate for the grand duelist I think! :P ) Her biggest weakness is that she has very little she can do except escape if she's outnumbered.

While I do think she could use a small stat boost, Overall, I think she's in a good place, and just needs a little more time for people to learn her. (I've seen many play her poorly since her update.) I would not be surprised to see her at an LCS level in the near future!

TheTombstone2 votes

I played a game against her myself and she slaughtered top lane, and then the rest of out or team. (Though my team wasn't the best.)

OxBaker2 votes

Maybe play her in PvP and then come back explaining how OP she is. She's a bit on the weak side but RIOT's got her buffs on the PBE.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Maybe play her in PvP and then come back explaining how OP she is. She's a bit on the weak side but RIOT's got her buffs on the PBE.

i just duelled a fed irelia with her and won.

so, shes pretty fine imo.

TheDangerousTaco1 votes

@Critmaster Garen, Agreeing with his post, another thing to add, fiora is only viable as 1v1. In teamfights its an entirely different scenario. I don't think I ever see a fiora do good in teamfights if she wasn't already fed

DropFill1 votes

You saying fiora is overpowered because you played 1v1 customs with you friend and spammed health, knowing she deals maximum full health as true damage? Please, she sucks right now. lowest win ratio, trash laning phase, squishy as hell for someone who needs to be dancing around her target to do average damage early-mid game

Renaille1 votes

Fiora is really weak right now. How do you beat a fiora? Walk away when she ults.

TheDangerousTaco1 votes

Most of the comments that say she is good come from " I won my lane" or "I stomped my laner hard" or "I beat someone 1v1" YES that's the point. fiora is MADE for 1v1. Saying you beat someone 1v1 as fiora is about as significant as saying "I got laid by a hooker!" Honeslty not to be harsh, but the core of her problem being weak is not her laning phase. If the game lasted 30mins with no jungler and decided by who won the most lanes. Fiora would be a solid pick 10/10. But consider this.

As BlackEyesBlue said in his earlier post, If she is outnumbered she really cant do much, since her dps relies to heavily on her passive, and what happens if you don't win your lane?? What if you don't do good 1v1? Fiora is a great duelist that offers lots of outplay, we cannot deny that. But if a good enough laner knows how fiora works ( cause many are still ignorant of not to stand still when her passive is facing her ) and beat her 1v1. She basically looses the game. Why? Cause 1v1 is all she has going for her.. and that is not enough to make her good in a TEAM setting. that being said. Her ult really is conditional, its not as reliable to proc. I got my ult off many times, but when I did, the fight was over anyway, rarely have I used it in a fight on a squishy or tanky target that changed the fight in our favor. But that's just my personal experience. I realize some might have better luck then I did playing her.


edit, just an fyi. I personal still think her laning phase could use some work :P

Zarkkast1 votes

She doesn't just have Kayle's ult. She has Kayle's and Olaf's ult.

I think parry is fine, it's a very well done ability imo. The only problem I see with her is that the %HP true damage scaling on her ult is WAY too high. She can go up to more than a 100%, albeit in a totally non-realistic scenario, but still.

TheTombstone1 votes

I imagine that the people who are the most toxic on this forum are the ones who play Fiora and want her to remain broken. Just saying.

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