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Hi Riot , what about udyr??

2152262661994··2 votes·669 views

With all the Juggernaut champs my question is what about udyr ?? I am an Udyr tiger player and it means exactly what juggernaut is, i mean he needs to walk to you and, if he can atack u he can make a lot of damage, but a lot of times u got cced and u just die before u cant make anything because you need to buy damage items to make damage or he wont make any damage( still talking about udyr tiger, i know u can play him phoenix tank and make damage, etc....) but i rlly think he needs some love on the tiger form ...

Sorry for my enlglish, i hope u can understund what i mean ...

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CppL2 votes

I dunno ,i saw udyrs building only sated and zhephyr and then full tank.and have no problem 3 shoting any squise.While being tanky and fast as fuck.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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I dunno ,i saw udyrs building only sated and zhephyr and then full tank.and have no problem 3 shoting any squise.While being tanky and fast as fuck.

So you are telling me in the time it took them to build Sated, Zephyr, and Boots you didn't shut him down?

Teby 1v91 votes

He needs some love..

Jefftiffy2 votes

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He needs some love..

I mean he hasn't been viable since they changed the jungle. He has only showed up from time to time and been kind of awkward. At least when Godyr was popular it was balanced.

Teby 1v91 votes

I hope he will be back some day.. and then ill get challenger xD

UltraSceptile2 votes

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I mean he hasn't been viable since they changed the jungle. He has only showed up from time to time and been kind of awkward. At least when Godyr was popular it was balanced.

It was balanced.

It was balanced.

Do you have any idea what kind of hell godyr was? The guy got feral flare in like 12 minutes, built full tank afterwards and scaled just as hard as nasus. He's nasus with hard CC and a huge speed up every couple of seconds. As well as waveclear and a shield that makes tanking towers insanely easy.

To the OP, Udyr really doesn't feel like a juggernaut, who are generally extremely low mobility bruisers. Udyr with his movement speed buff doesn't really feel like an immobile champ as shown when you see trick2g literally run circles around the map tanking every single tower and still managing to get out.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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It was balanced.

It was balanced.

Do you have any idea what kind of hell godyr was? The guy got feral flare in like 12 minutes, built full tank afterwards and scaled just as hard as nasus. He's nasus with hard CC and a huge speed up every couple of seconds. As well as waveclear and a shield that makes tanking towers insanely easy.

To the OP, Udyr really doesn't feel like a juggernaut, who are generally extremely low mobility bruisers. Udyr with his movement speed buff doesn't really feel like an immobile champ as shown when you see trick2g literally run circles around the map tanking every single tower and still managing to get out.

Except when I played against it I understood the way to beat Godyr was to CC him and blow him up. He literally had to run in almost a perfectly straight line into your team and often took up the engagement slot in comps. The thing that made Godyr so good was his near infinite mana in jungle once you build wriggles and had the crystal in your inventory for the mana sustain and often some people even built Spirit of the Ancient Golem (worse Cinderhulk) on him instead. Literally only reason he was strong was the combo of Feral and the crystal allowing him to power farm and spam spells 24/7.

To be quite honest all Udyr needs right now is this tacked onto his passive: for every stack of agility on Udyr he regens 2 mana per kill and 3 hp and this is doubled against neutral creeps. With 3 stacks (his max) it would cap at 12 mana per kill and 18 hp (in the jungle) per kill and would make managing his stacks interesting while helping him get his sustain back.

UltraSceptile2 votes

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Except when I played against it I understood the way to beat Godyr was to CC him and blow him up. He literally had to run in almost a perfectly straight line into your team and often took up the engagement slot in comps. The thing that made Godyr so good was his near infinite mana in jungle once you build wriggles and had the crystal in your inventory for the mana sustain and often some people even built Spirit of the Ancient Golem (worse Cinderhulk) on him instead. Literally only reason he was strong was the combo of Feral and the crystal allowing him to power farm and spam spells 24/7.

To be quite honest all Udyr needs right now is this tacked onto his passive: for every stack of agility on Udyr he regens 2 mana per kill and 3 hp and this is doubled against neutral creeps. With 3 stacks (his max) it would cap at 12 mana per kill and 18 hp (in the jungle) per kill and would make managing his stacks interesting while helping him get his sustain back.

Old Udyr built feral flare and straight tank, triforce wasn't even needed.

Yes, blow him up. Blow him up even though he has a 4 second CD shield and a stun to da mouf for anyone who wants to touch him and then he gets to run away like a little bitch.

Now I like playing Udyr, it's fun to imitate trick2g and rape face. But he doesn't need buffs. At all.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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Old Udyr built feral flare and straight tank, triforce wasn't even needed.

Yes, blow him up. Blow him up even though he has a 4 second CD shield and a stun to da mouf for anyone who wants to touch him and then he gets to run away like a little bitch.

Now I like playing Udyr, it's fun to imitate trick2g and rape face. But he doesn't need buffs. At all.

He does need buffs. He has very little sustain and his early game clear is probably the worst. And there is a very good reason he isn't picked much anymore even with Sated and Cinder.

Problem is Lee has been slowly pushed out of the Meta and people like Sej, Yi, and others are all powerfarming or ganking instead of trying to kill Udyr at lvl 2 at his second buff.

UltraSceptile2 votes

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He does need buffs. He has very little sustain and his early game clear is probably the worst. And there is a very good reason he isn't picked much anymore even with Sated and Cinder.

With machete and two pots I can clear entire jungle endlessly without a problem without ever having to back.

If you can't play Udyr with sated you're bad with Udyr. He's a strong champ if you can play him right.

CppL1 votes

He has one of the best early game.How you suppose to shutdown him down? it"s like saying shutdown lee sin early mid and he will fall off late game...

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