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Shen Rework incoming or something thats prob gonna make him feel the same

xXGoneXx·6/5/2015, 5:13:29 AM·8 votes·23,565 views

Dude I can't wait for Shen to be a badass Ninja. You guys need to make his kit similar to Zed's yet also the antithesis of his because of lore. They trained under the same master afterall.

From Polycount LoL Contest:

https://cdn.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/361/832/large/aleksey-bayura-shen1.jpg?1418909118

https://cdn.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/361/833/large/aleksey-bayura-first-concept.jpg?1418908897

http://orig12.deviantart.net/1255/f/2015/111/c/4/jonathanflanders_outcastshen_model_by_jsculpts-d8qm9jz.jpg

http://img10.deviantart.net/7e52/i/2015/108/d/3/outcast_shen___wip_by_jsculpts-d8q8nqy.jpg

Here is an idea I had for Shen: (the general idea is that he is a Tank that plays like an Assassin even on live so I went with that idea. That and Akali is Fighter/Assassin, Kennen is Mage/Assassin so Shen fills the void with Tank/Assassin)

an actual ninja now P: Not attacking or taking damage generates stacks and at max stacks Shen deals an AoE auto attack spin (No AS anymore because thats too fightery) Q: Shen immediately lunges forward to damage and slow, and lunges a second time if the first hit a target (NINJA DASH) W: spell shield that teleports shen behind the target if absorbed a spell, silences and damages the target (More fitting of "Feint") E: brief delay then shen disappears from the game and reappears at target location, taunting all targets (a true "Shadow Dash" and reminiscent of Zed's R) R: 5500 range ground targeted teleport that grants a shield to allies per second of channel and an MS bonus for allies upon arrival (can't ult from top anymore but gets pantheon like initiation)

This was someones idea to a rioter. I dont agree with everything in this kit but his passive is alright. His Q should be his E and would be awesome to see two ninjas like zed and shen fight it out with that. No more silence to champions because this would make him very OP and riot doesnt like silences. His W could still stay but his q should change. Idk what it should change to but it could be a skill should since hes always throwing his sword. Kinda makes no sense, should be kunai's. Just some kind of change to his Q would be good and change to his E so it wont be too much of a tanky ninja. Hes still shen thats a tank but he can still dis out his own good amount of damage like darius does. His passive would be a good way to clear waves easily without him struggling to his every minion one by one.

38 Comments

Arsames6/5/2015, 7:24:07 AM6 votes

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Dude I can't wait for Shen to be a badass Ninja. You guys need to make his kit similar to Zed's yet also the antithesis of his because of lore. They trained under the same master afterall.

NO! You don't know anything about the lore of Shen and Zed. Zed and Shen should never share anything but their quote "Without a sound". Shen is a member and leader of the Kinkou order, Zed is a member and leader of the Order of Shadows. Their philosophy on what being a true ninja is differs greatly. Shen is a tank/protecting ninja, Zed is an assassin/killer ninja.

5050 Teammate6/5/2015, 7:01:31 AM3 votes

So you want to take the ying of the ying yang (that is shen and zed) and make it a double yang. How about no.

kJs6/5/2015, 5:55:39 AM2 votes

I think that kit would great be for Shen.

My idea for a kit that I haven't made yet and that follows the tank or assassin idea below. The idea is still in it's rough form.

TANK = Must build tank items, AP by itself would not make Shen tanky, but maybe scale with shield power well. Abilities that are useful for a Shen tank would do well with tank items and would scale a little bit on AP so that items like item 3157 are applicable. Shields will scale with AP, and any other form of tank resistances/tank utilities should scale well with AP. Maybe Taunt duration increase by 0.5 seconds per 70 AP or something. Note: Merc treads destroy Shen's taunt atm.

ASSASSIN = Potential HIGH DAMAGE abilities would scale with AD. Keep his Q now, but scale it well with AD, His dash would have a high AD scaling for damage. Duration may decrease by 0.1 seconds per 50 AD for example to lean that towards tank AP Shen. Shields would scale very very little with AD, so that it would provide some protection but wouldn't make it a strong point of AD Assassin Shen.

So essentially, you have a binary or dual playstyle that you can't mix together. You choose either, AP Tank Shen or AD Assassin Shen.

What could potentially happen is that this kit style would be overloaded, and that people would turn him into a hybrid fighter, but it's not like Riot haven't already released some comparatively overloaded kits recently. Ekko

Blade of Justic6/5/2015, 5:39:34 AM2 votes

Well, they reworked Sion because he was a Burst Mage/Melee ADC that was supposed to be an unstoppable berserker. So, they should remake Shen from a Tank into an Assassin. It makes the most sense.

Strawberrycocoa6/5/2015, 5:46:57 AM2 votes

Well They ARE reworking Poppy into a tank, so maybe they are making Shen into an assassin to keep roles in line. All things in balance, etc.

GABY KILL12/27/2015, 3:54:38 PM1 votes

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FlamingSoul12/28/2015, 2:23:57 PM1 votes

ok guys heres a silver kind of conclusion to this so called Eye of the Twilight Shen since the new masteries rework in preseason 6 ive maining shen becase his early game sustain finally was there the undying grasp masteries tree ,ive reached tier 5 whit shen and its somethimes funny how much dmg u can deal whit a pure tank build ,tanks are supposed to be weak early,great midgame and carrying late game but shen is the opposite hes ok early now hes great whit undying u can farm in silence becase if they harast u just use ur grasp and ur life is back ,mid game is great best of all shen kit whit his global presence dragons heralds barons but late game is the worst basically uselles the all gameplay whit shen is utplaying ur opponent by q harast and farm and helping ur team but at lvl 18 when all are finally in balance they just don't mind u and kill the adc and midder and u are left alone to carry and what u can do again a strong lf topper like tryndamere ,strong jurgenaut like darius garen thye just kill the adc in 2spells combo q r and ure supposed to carry on ur own when all ur spells scale whit ap and just ur q passive whit hp and ure building hp ar and mr no ap id like his kit to scale whit hp armor and mr to be a true definition of tank not a midllane mage if u think clearly is more suited to build ap on him more dmg better ,ult shild so building ap gives u more stats and late game u have a shlld of 850+(135% of 500 ap lets say becase u build some hp there to) u can kill the and in two spells combo e-q ,and the most anoing thing is when u ult someone and ure ult is outdamged by hard cc like orianna ulti, lux ulty ,graves etc a nice bluff to his ulty will be nice to be imune to spells dmg and just basic dmg that will make a real hero out of shen ,becase shen gameplay is locking in the map for opportunities to use ur ulty and if u look spacebar like forever after 6 and u finnaly got a opportunity u ulty and he dies and ure like there like ok cuz no one will tell u in soloq to help then not even ping is all up to u to use a good ult ,don't change his spells they are good q w e his ult sucks and his scaling ap [slayer-jinx-wink]

LilxPaprika6/5/2015, 5:36:10 AM1 votes

The relationship between zed and shen I find is a lot like Leona and Diana. They they have a fighting style of their own. Lore wise Zed went his own way developed his own techniques perhaps... I don't mind them being different in that sense. They cover different roles while still keeping the ninja feel imo. I think maybe some slight model changes animations might be all that's needed to make shen feel more ninja

The one thing I like about your shen ult is that if you do ult if an ally dies you still appear since it would perhaps shield all allies in an area, if I'm reading that correctly? As opposed to now if the ally you ulted dies before you appear you don't teleport.

Does kennen have assassin elements in his kit? Thought he was strictly mage. He does have his 1 charged auto and q which are single target so I supposed so.

The problem with shen though is its easier to give a mage some assassin aspect. Its harder to give a tank this. Shen still has a single target vorpal and his q, which can be pretty bursty for a tank. I also find the biggest thing that identifies a lot of assassins is their ult. Shen has an ult that is anything but assassin.

Nightmare123foxy4/8/2016, 9:39:30 PM1 votes

Shen would be better and badass

Rabid Husky6/5/2015, 6:04:29 AM1 votes

im down for a assassin shen it doesnt make sence how akali and kennen are assassins and shen is a tank

kile1476/5/2015, 12:05:50 PM1 votes

Riot doesn't have an issue with silences, they have an issue with champs with a lot of burst having a silence because you die before the silence is up and you can't do anything. If this shen couldn't burst targets then a silence would be fine on him.

Thund3r Ang3l7/2/2015, 8:42:27 AM1 votes

Comon, stop with that. Why you want to change a very unique concept? A ninja tank, comon !! this is so original!

Shahamut10/1/2015, 12:13:31 AM1 votes

So tired of the "ninja = assassin" mindset. People need to get out of that single fantasy of a ninja.

Ninja's served as infiltrators, spies, assassins, frontline warriors(!!) and even body guards. They even wore armor!

Not only that, but the lore behind the order has them as protectors of balance. It would make at least SOME sense if the "leader" was something other than just another assassin. A judge, a protector: This is Shen. He sees, declares judgment, protects and upholds balance.