I used to be a pretty good jungler. Since this update i haven't been able to jungle that well. I start on the frog everytime now and then hit the blue buff then i hit another small camp then i go to my red. I really feel the difference in sustain junglers and others. I honestly think Udyr and Warwick need nerfs now because they are so unbalanced in the jungle now.
Diostukos1 votesSounds more like you're not understanding the new jungle well.
Most start Gromp, then blue, then wolves, then recall; or start Golems, red, then wraiths/birdies and recall.
EviIGreenRanger1 votesNew jungle does take time to relearn as it's quite different now and all the new jungle items.
Blasting Smite (the purple one) seems to be the best imo 45sec cd and the heals. Haven't found a use for the red or grey one. Haven't tried blue yet.
I manage to clear the entire jungle before backing.
Gromp(smite) > blue > wolves > red(smite) > chickens > turtles or turtles > red (smite) > chickens > blue > wolves > Gromp
All the jungle champs i enjoy playing has shields for sustain. 
Blueharlequin1 votesIf you play Udyr try the red one out. Basically it gives you bonus damage on the target. So run up, bear stance stun and smite them. Switch to Phoenix or Tiger stance and got to town on them. It's really strong.
As for the grey one. It's kinda strange. It just encourages counter jungling which is the mind set you have to get into. Every time smite is up ask yourself, can I steal my enemies jungle or not. I've used it with Trundle once but Udyr can use it well. I wouldn't recommend it with Vi or Skarner though since they're more gank heavy then Udyr.
