New to jungle. any tips?

Digital Daddy·Apr 26, 2017·1 votes·1,872 views

I want to try jungle out. Any easy champions, tips, how to gank, what monsters to kill first, Etc.

Help is appreciated! have a nice day! ^ _ ^

15 Comments

EndlessSorcererApr 26, 20173 votes

I would suggest watching videos by high-ELO and/or professional junglers (i.e. Valkrin, Meteos, Stonewall008, Nightblue3, and FoxdropLOL). They will typically provide a lot of useful tips while playing and you can often see or hear their decision process and some optimizations throughout the game.

Off the top of my head, some basic optimizations may be:

Use hard-CC when the monster camps are about to attack you to cancel that attack and delay their next.
Attack Speed is extremely efficient at clearing on most junglers. I'd recommend using about 15% on champions when you need to speed up their clear even if they don't use the stat much later (with a few exceptions, such as Nidalee and Evelynn).
Keep a control ward out (or in your inventory) whenever possible. This is important for every champion, but I thought I should emphasis it. There isn't really a good reason not to.

As far as ganking is concerned:

When possible, conserve your gap-closer while ganking. If you can get to the enemy champion without using your mobility spell(s), then you can save it to catch them after they try to escape (Flash, dash, blink, etc).
You should should try to stay between the enemy and their escape route. You should be trying to move backwards (towards their escape) in-between attacks so that you can body-block them and slow their escape. This also leaves you closer to them if they try to dash or blink past you.
It can be risky to gank top-lane while Dragon is up since the enemy team can just group and take it 4v3. I'd recommend ganking top-lane early if possible (after your initial clear) and when Dragon is down; that lane can be quite snowbally due to isolation, so you want to get your ally ahead.
Learn to recognize the general times when buff camps spawn during games. If you see the enemy gank bottom lane while their top-side buff is up, you can go steal it from them.
Watch when top and bottom lane initially go into lane. If that lane has leashed for their jungler (missing health, mana, or showed up to lane a bit late), then you know where the enemy jungler has likely started and where they will end their clear (where is closest for them to gank).
If you have killed the enemy laner, you can either allow your laner to freeze or shove the lane into the enemy tower. If you shove the wave under tower and the next minion wave is coming up, it can be helpful to proxy it to ensure that the wave fully resets and the enemy laner misses as much as possible. This is very situational though and you will have to learn when through experience.

Other tips:

Whenever possible, walk up to the enemy champion during a gank and save your gap-closer for after they use their escape abilities.
Watch the enemy laners when they go into lane. Whichever lane shows up later and/or missing mana will likely indicate which side of the jungle the enemy jungler started on (which is useful for predicting gank paths and for counter-jungling).
Watch the minimap to see when and where the enemy goes to ward, which laners are pushing, which laners are vulnerable
Know, roughly, how most laning matchups go so that you can prioritize which lanes are the easiest to gank or require an early gank to decide the matchup.
If you have blown an enemy's Flash during a gank but haven't killed them, swing back around immediately after an gank them again. Many people don't expect it
If you've killed an enemy during a previous gank in top lane, kill them again immediately after they return to lane. They likely won't have wards up yet and a second back-to-back death can be enough to completely crush any chance that opponent has to recover the lane.
Top laners rarely bother warding the lane bushes. As such, lane ganks can be quite surprising and effective.
When you kill an enemy laner, shove the minion wave into the tower so they miss gold and experience and so that the minion wave will reset to the middle of the lane. If you can get away with it, clear the upcoming minion wave as well to ensure the reset and maximum missed minions.

You will learn a lot through experience, but these tips should help you at the start.

Digital DaddyApr 26, 20171 votes

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I would suggest watching videos by high-ELO and/or professional junglers (i.e. Valkrin, Meteos, Stonewall008, Nightblue3, and FoxdropLOL). They will typically provide a lot of useful tips while playing and you can often see or hear their decision process and some optimizations throughout the game.

Off the top of my head, some basic optimizations may be:

Use hard-CC when the monster camps are about to attack you to cancel that attack and delay their next.

Attack Speed is extremely efficient at clearing on most junglers. I'd recommend using about 15% on champions when you need to speed up their clear even if they don't use the stat much later (with a few exceptions, such as Nidalee and Evelynn).

Keep a control ward out (or in your inventory) whenever possible. This is important for every champion, but I thought I should emphasis it. There isn't really a good reason not to.

As far as ganking is concerned:

When possible, conserve your gap-closer while ganking. If you can get to the enemy champion without using your mobility spell(s), then you can save it to catch them after they try to escape (Flash, dash, blink, etc).

You should should try to stay between the enemy and their escape route. You should be trying to move backwards (towards their escape) in-between attacks so that you can body-block them and slow their escape. This also leaves you closer to them if they try to dash or blink past you.

It can be risky to gank top-lane while Dragon is up since the enemy team can just group and take it 4v3. I'd recommend ganking top-lane early if possible (after your initial clear) and when Dragon is down; that lane can be quite snowbally due to isolation, so you want to get your ally ahead.

Learn to recognize the general times when buff camps spawn during games. If you see the enemy gank bottom lane while their top-side buff is up, you can go steal it from them.

Watch when top and bottom lane initially go into lane. If that lane has leashed for their jungler (missing health, mana, or showed up to lane a bit late), then you know where the enemy jungler has likely started and where they will end their clear (where is closest for them to gank).

If you have killed the enemy laner, you can either allow your laner to freeze or shove the lane into the enemy tower. If you shove the wave under tower and the next minion wave is coming up, it can be helpful to proxy it to ensure that the wave fully resets and the enemy laner misses as much as possible. This is very situational though and you will have to learn when through experience.

Other tips:

Whenever possible, walk up to the enemy champion during a gank and save your gap-closer for after they use their escape abilities.

Watch the enemy laners when they go into lane. Whichever lane shows up later and/or missing mana will likely indicate which side of the jungle the enemy jungler started on (which is useful for predicting gank paths and for counter-jungling).

Watch the minimap to see when and where the enemy goes to ward, which laners are pushing, which laners are vulnerable

Know, roughly, how most laning matchups go so that you can prioritize which lanes are the easiest to gank or require an early gank to decide the matchup.

If you have blown an enemy's Flash during a gank but haven't killed them, swing back around immediately after an gank them again. Many people don't expect it

If you've killed an enemy during a previous gank in top lane, kill them again immediately after they return to lane. They likely won't have wards up yet and a second back-to-back death can be enough to completely crush any chance that opponent has to recover the lane.

Top laners rarely bother warding the lane bushes. As such, lane ganks can be quite surprising and effective.

When you kill an enemy laner, shove the minion wave into the tower so they miss gold and experience and so that the minion wave will reset to the middle of the lane. If you can get away with it, clear the upcoming minion wave as well to ensure the reset and maximum missed minions.

You will learn a lot through experience, but these tips should help you at the start.

WOW! That was a huge wall of information your help very much appreciated! XD

EndlessSorcererApr 26, 20171 votes

Considering how often this question comes up, I've just saved this post in Evernote.

It is quite handy.

KilanostApr 26, 20171 votes

then ffs take nightblue off that list lol

KilanostApr 26, 20172 votes

Do NOT watch Nightblue as an example of how to jungle. Think of Nightblue's stream as a comedy/troll channel unless he's playing on is challenger account trying to climb (which he never is these days). Meteos is the best one on that last. Also IWDominate and Tarzaned.

Automated RivenApr 26, 20172 votes

easy champs? amumu and shyvanna have a easy time clearing. watch the mini map and pay attention to how the lanes are pushing. If you have to count minions and that tells you which lanes are naturally gonna push without champion intervention. then pick which camps your going to clear that lets you get to the wave that is gonna hit your tower for an easy gank.

Digital DaddyApr 26, 20171 votes

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easy champs? amumu and shyvanna have a easy time clearing. watch the mini map and pay attention to how the lanes are pushing. If you have to count minions and that tells you which lanes are naturally gonna push without champion intervention. then pick which camps your going to clear that lets you get to the wave that is gonna hit your tower for an easy gank.

Ahh okay thanks!

KilanostApr 26, 20172 votes

You need to be confident enough that you're doing the right thing to not let flaming/bitching lanes talk you out of making the right decision and also to know what you are actually responsible for. For that, I suggest this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC5qHBnnw4I

For a first time jungler you want to start with a simple champion with an easy clear who can defend his jungle fairly easily. I suggest Udyr as a decent starting jungler. Amumu is good too.

Where to start your clear depends on a lot of different factors including your champion, enemy jungler starting position, did they get vision?, do you have vision of the enemy jungler?, is there a champion that you want to get an early gank on before its too late? etc. This basic decision takes experience because it dictates the rest of your jungle pathing. From there the question is do I do the buffs and another camp and get a quick gank? Do i farm out my whole jungle? Early on, always start with a full clear before ganking till you get more experience jungling.

Ganking is an art that is also developed over time. Here are some basic things to help you know when to gank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lwSeruoJlk

Things not to do: Do not start out jungling as lee sin or nidalee or any other high skill champion. Don't just gank to gank. Don't start drag/baron without smite up.

Things to remember: If the enemy jungler shows what side of the map he's on, take all his camps on the other side of the map if you can get there. When you gank, always push the minion wave to turret (to deny xp and get a little extra gold/xp for yourself). If your laner starts pinging you off, ignore them bc they're being stupid unless they're waaay behind and are trying to set up a freeze. Get used to ignoring your lanes. They don't know what the fuck they're talking about 90% of the time. Learn to ignore flame. Use mutes a lot.

Digital DaddyApr 26, 20171 votes

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You need to be confident enough that you're doing the right thing to not let flaming/bitching lanes talk you out of making the right decision and also to know what you are actually responsible for. For that, I suggest this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC5qHBnnw4I

For a first time jungler you want to start with a simple champion with an easy clear who can defend his jungle fairly easily. I suggest Udyr as a decent starting jungler. Amumu is good too.

Where to start your clear depends on a lot of different factors including your champion, enemy jungler starting position, did they get vision?, do you have vision of the enemy jungler?, is there a champion that you want to get an early gank on before its too late? etc. This basic decision takes experience because it dictates the rest of your jungle pathing. From there the question is do I do the buffs and another camp and get a quick gank? Do i farm out my whole jungle? Early on, always start with a full clear before ganking till you get more experience jungling.

Ganking is an art that is also developed over time. Here are some basic things to help you know when to gank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lwSeruoJlk

Things not to do: Do not start out jungling as lee sin or nidalee or any other high skill champion. Don't just gank to gank. Don't start drag/baron without smite up.

Things to remember: If the enemy jungler shows what side of the map he's on, take all his camps on the other side of the map if you can get there. When you gank, always push the minion wave to turret (to deny xp and get a little extra gold/xp for yourself). If your laner starts pinging you off, ignore them bc they're being stupid unless they're waaay behind and are trying to set up a freeze. Get used to ignoring your lanes. They don't know what the fuck they're talking about 90% of the time. Learn to ignore flame. Use mutes a lot.

Wow you're really nice thank you so much! :D

GamerThinkApr 26, 20172 votes

summoner 11

[There will be for sure one time you forget it.]

KilanostApr 26, 20172 votes

When you do forget smite, afk so your team can remake. Don't make everyone else suffer for 20 minutes because you forgot smite.

GamerThinkMay 3, 20171 votes

That's a very nice idea. I'm past far the beginning where you can forget smite, though, even if I'm not sure 100% it won't happen in the future.

d4rkshockApr 26, 20171 votes

Play Warwick. Perfect newbie champion for jg. Cheap af. You either want blue or red buff first for every champion. amumu is also easy and you are the team fight champion. He has one of in not the best ultimate in the game.first. You need help from your laners for the first buff and you need to get the killing blow so you get the exp. That's your first monster. Then go kill the other buff and gromp. Kill if second if you started blue. Watch for overextended lanes. If they shove too far into your side, gank. That's an easy kill. Also gank lvl 3 if you have some form of mobility or cc with a decent range. If not, gank lvl 6. Around lvl 6, get dragon. Always take smite. If you don't use Mana, start red.

just OK junglerApr 26, 20171 votes

Don't first time jungle in ranked. I'm a jungle main and I hate people who dont know how to jungle, still jungle anyway.

Digital DaddyApr 26, 20171 votes

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Don't first time jungle in ranked. I'm a jungle main and I hate people who dont know how to jungle, still jungle anyway.

Why would i ranked jungle? lol nah normals for me