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Buff Karma's W Range!

pillowprincess1·2/17/2015, 5:33:49 AM·2 votes·1,042 views

Alright, Karma has never really been a popular midlaner, of course she can go mid, she just gets outclassed. Karma's kit is very strong, and knowing how to use it makes Karma look like a monster. But she has one problem that really sticks out to me. Her W range, currently at 675 range, is very VERY rarely used when I play, or see Karma played. The damage is fine, but when do you ever see a Karma use it for damage? The range is so short, she puts herself in danger so she never gets to even use the snare portion of it.

My proposal is to take it's range, and increase it to 900-950, and make it more like Leblanc's, where if they stay within 1000 range, they will be snared. I feel like this is fair, and doesn't create much toxicity to the game, this just gives Karma the reliability to actually use the ability. If you think I'm wrong, let's look at Leblanc's snare. Her snare is a skillshot, one reason why the range is so long, but it also does 80 / 130 / 180 / 230 / 280 (+ 100% AP) if she successfully snares. Not only does it have high scaling, it also slows by 25% over the duration, creating it more difficult to escape without using a dash/flash/ect. to get away. Leblanc's snare lasts for 1.5s. But the biggest part of all, Leblanc's E is 80% of the time not a mandatory skill to pull off her quick burst. Normally, a quick Q-R-W will get the job done, only needing the E if she needs to slow them down, plans to double chain, or W's AOE didn't proc Mimic Sigil of Malice.

**Leblanc E Stats: ** RANGE: 950 COST: 80 MANA COOLDOWN: 14 / 12.5 / 11 / 9.5 / 8 MAGIC DAMAGE: 80 / 130 / 180 / 230 / 280 (+ 100% AP) The target's movement speed is decreased by 25% If Leblanc remains within 1000-range of the target for the full duration, the target takes 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 (+ 50% AP) and is rooted for 1.5 seconds

Now lets look at Karma's snare. RANGE: 675 **COST: **70 / 75 / 80 / 85 / 90 MANA COOLDOWN: 16 / 15 / 14 / 13 / 12 MAGIC DAMAGE: 60 / 110 / 160 / 210 / 260 (+ 60% AP) Karma forms a 675-range tether to target enemy champion, revealing and dealing 60 / 110 / 160 / 210 / 260 (+ 60% AP) to the target over 2 seconds at 0.66-second intervals

Lets not forget, both of these champions can enhance, or repeat the ability doing increased damage. Let's look at this side by side.

Karma Mantra W: Mantra information: COOLDOWN: 45 / 42 / 39 / 36 Damaging enemy champions with abilities refreshes 2 seconds of Mantra's cooldown, and half that amount on basic attacks against enemy champions. Mantra W: MAGIC DAMAGE: 135 / 260 / 385 / 510 / 560 (+ 120% AP) (Roughly, considering it adds onto the damage of the ability, which scales with rank) Deals bonus damage (75 / 150 / 225 / 300 (+ 60% AP)) and heals Karma for 20% (+ 1% per 100 AP) of her missing health upon casting. If the tether is not broken after the 2 seconds, Karma is once again healed for 20% (+ 1% per 100 AP) of her missing health.

Leblanc Mimic Ethereal Chains: Mimic information: **COOLDOWN: ** 40 / 32 / 24 MAGIC DAMAGE: 200 / 400 / 600 (+ 130% AP)

Yes, Karma 's does heal, which unfortunately very rarely/never gets used because of short range. Now, unlike Leblanc, Karma's W snare is essential to her burst pattern, W+R+Q+Q(secondary damage). The target usually needs to be snared to be hit by the 2nd tick ever.

Please Riot, consider this buff, considering Karma's 3.5-4% pick rate.

TL;DR: Karma is a strong champion, just not in the current long range meta. With a range buff to her W, it would give her a more reliable, less risky heal, snare, and lane harass. Currently, in my eyes it is just an unreliable, early game mana burner.

Karma Feedback much appreciated! Karma

4 Comments

Kingsgrave2/17/2015, 6:14:14 AM1 votes

If you buff Karma's W she is just going to oppress the absolute shit out of top lane.

Even just the range increase would be terrifying. Its already relatively difficult to run away from it as a melee without wasting your escape or flash if you dont have a built in one.

Sure this would help her bot lane but Karma isn't a character that is only good in one lane. She has been used top before and that W range is probably the only thing stopping her from being better than Liss there honestly.

EmittingXs2/17/2015, 6:47:43 AM1 votes

I see her W as one of those double-edged sword type of skills. She can root an enemy in place but at the cost of putting her in danger. She can poke hard at bot or mid with her Q and her RQ is just insanely good. Now, trying to get close to a Karma is only leaving you open to a Q right in the face so of course most people would want to avoid her. Her W on the other hand is riskier. You want that kill? Then risk your own well being. Her W helps create kill opportunities but don't forget that it can also really help her escape. Many times before I've used it on someone chasing me in order to root them in place and avoid dying.

If you were to increase the range on her W then I personally see it as being kind of unfair because her presence alone in a lane would be most terrifying. Most people would not want to get too close and risk their own lives. Sure she'd be a greater force to be reckoned with but it could also create some annoying and unfair games. Don't forget that it's also a click skill, not a "shoots in a line and hits it's first target" skill so spams are unavoidable. Now, this all sounds like it's exactly what Karma needs, a bigger lane presence, but I think she's great just as she is, a support that most people forget can actually deal damage and RQ people under the safety of their turrets.

I love playing Karma and I honestly believe she's great as she is.