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Don't Nerf Ahri's Charm

DyIIionaire·2/14/2016, 8:21:23 AM·6 votes·1,821 views

Ahri has been my favorite champion since I started playing this game. I've stuck with her through all of the meta changes and all of her nerfs, but now I'm putting my foot down.

To start things off, this nerf makes no sense. Why punish good Ahri players for having enough knowledge and skill to predict dashes/jumps? Landing skill shots are supposed to feel rewarding. Ever since the removal of Death Fire Grasp, and the damage amplifier on her charm, Ahri's E has felt unrewarding and almost useless in lane. Charm has a very high mana cost early and does very minimal damage. I remember back when her charm amplified her damage, I was always finding ways and angles to hit that charm on my opponent and chunk a good portion of their health. It always felt satisfying and like her charm had a purpose. Nowadays, I rarely see a point to throw out a charm in lane because it will only change the damage output of her typical E, Q, W combo very slightly. What's the point of wasting my mana when I can just throw Q's occasionally and wait for my jungler to show up? Her Charm used to define her as a champion and her kit. Now it's just... there.

Secondly, Ahri's charm animation has a slight cast time, travels at a reasonable speed, and can not be cast through minions. There's already several ways to avoid it including dashes, jumps, blinks, Quick Silver Sash and Cleanse. An Ahri player who successfully predicts a jump or dash should not be penalized for out smarting their enemy. This nerf seems small but I feel like it is going to have giant ramifications for skilled Ahri players. I agree that Ahri is too safe of a champion but there are other ways to nerf this. For example, you could make her Q movement speed scaling or increase the cool down of her ultimate.

If this Ahri nerf goes through then I feel she NEEDS to be compensated in some way just like Veigar was. Maybe increase the scaling on her Q and E? Ahri's scalings are very low and if they were increased it would make her late game feel much more meaningful. If not that then add back the damage amplifier on her charm but at 10% not 20%. If not any of those suggestions then just please do something. Her damage is already lacking in early and late game.

I would really appreciate it if a Rioter would discuss this with me or try to further explain the reasoning behind the nerf. Sincerely, A concerned Ahri main

21 Comments

chezwickcheese2/14/2016, 8:41:52 AM4 votes

Why are ap mages being nerfed while ad assaisn are insane right now? Doesn't make any sense.

VęX2/14/2016, 8:57:03 AM1 votes

Are there changes coming in the PBE? I recently made a post about ahri advice I would love to chat with you about her.

CaptnJakSparrow2/14/2016, 9:10:38 AM1 votes

i see 0 ahri nerfs on pbe. . . wtf are you talking about.

Boomerangbro2/14/2016, 9:21:38 AM1 votes

If they dont nerf Ahri's charm, then they need to remove something in her kit. Removing the movement speed buff on her Q seems like a good start.

Ereldra2/14/2016, 11:26:00 AM1 votes

Well, it was only a matter of time, they nerf her, and I always wondered, what they would nerf. This change will be a nerf, and certainly not a small/irrelevant one (for anyone claiming that: No, it's not only about the laning-phase, but also about Junglers and teamfighting. It really takes away a tool that was useful in every stage of the game), but what can you say? It is justified, considering the statistics, that she gets nerfed, and also justified, to bring the spell in line with other CC.

I'm sure, it will impact her quite a lot, but we should wait and see. It is not like this one change going to make her unplayable, and even if, then you could always increase her dmg/scalings a bit as compensation. Although I think, it will eradicate Ahris presence in Pro-Play completely. Because the sole reason she is picked, is for the fact, that you can do well in every matchup and almost all compositions, so it's really safe, to go with the Ahri-Blindpick. Even against the Leblanc-Counter it was a Skill-Matchup with the Mid-Dash-Charm. Now thats gone (enemy will just pick LB and dumpster her in Lane), and since Ahri isn't really used as a Counterpick against any specific Champions, there will be other Champs picked for the safe-Blindpick. Might actually be the reason, why they are nerfing VIktor? So he doesn't become instantly the "To-go-Midlane Blindpick" ^^

Sasogwa2/14/2016, 1:21:28 PM1 votes

If this Ahri nerf goes through then I feel she NEEDS to be compensated in some way just like Veigar was.

I assure you, you do NOT want the Veigar compensation.