Bard Ultimate needs a rework

BardMidGG··3 votes·1,220 views

There are various reasons why Bard is considered useless, but a main reason is his lack of damage dealing spells. No other champion in the game has 2 spells purely for "utility". In fact, the only other purely for utility spell i can think of is thresh's lantern. Bard only has one spell that deals damage (yes, his passive does a little, but not enough)!!!! I understand Rito not being able to change bard's tunnel because... Bard is the "Wandering Caretaker". That will be like making Garen a Noxian.... it goes against his name of "The Might of Demacia". So, to make Bard a more viable champion in all levels of the game, I wish for a rework on his ultimate; namely to make it a stun or a knock-up instead of a zhonya state. Why would this make Bard infinitely better? He would have an actual role in team fights; to land a good ultimate, instead of wandering around the edges trying to slow people from time to time. It would make his wandering a much better thing, too... if he sees his mid-laner diana in a skirmish against their yasuo, he can use a tunnel to get to the river fast, shoot the ult towards mid, and let Diana pick up the kill. This way Bard would have a lot of pressure on other lanes when he is wandering, in addition to having more presence in lane with a possibility of a long range stun always there. Before everyone starts whining about long range stuns op, and that no one cares about Bard, it's Ekko time.... cmon guys, Bard might not be as strong as Ekko, but he's fluffy and cute. Also, aoe stuns isn't a new thing.... Sejuani has a long range one (and is banned a lot), Kennen has a good aoe stun too, and there are also many other champions that have the like; Alistar, Orianna, Nami, Braum, Galio, Malphite, to name a few. I feel like making Bard's ultimate a stun would let him actually have a kill potential in lane (which he currently does not), and would also give him an actual role in team fights (which he also lacks), making him an actually viable champion in play.

I really like Bard and I want to see more people (more than 0 people) play him in ranked matches. No, troll picks don't count. In his current state, he is terribly UP, and even a god Bard will most likely lose to a silver Nami. Please upvote this thread or add comments below so Rito will hopefully see this thread and provide Bard with a much needed buff.

6 Comments

kanacho1 votes

The real reason is that his CC is not nearly strong enough in comparison to most supports, and if they went the healer route (Which makes sense for bard), his healing becomes less relevant late game, when things pick up pace, and laying a MAXIMUM of 3 shrines in certain spots to get any real relevant heals is just not that great.

His Mobility is strong with the journey ability, and I can see the plays with that, but I find most of the time landing that stun doesn't feel rewarding enough, and i usually get the best opportunity when enemies follow me through the journey portal. IDK, I think he needs a slight buff, not just people figuring out how to play him.

Onegarion1 votes

You know the theory about bard right? After this season is over and pro players get a chance to really work with him he will be the #1 support next split. He already draws bans in Korea.

kanacho1 votes

He's highly dependent on communication. His ulti can pretty much auto-win a team-fight if used properly, but the AMOUNT of team communication it requires forces you to pretty much never play him in solo que for the most part. (the biggest problem i have is that heal that becomes irrelevant lategame it feels).

GuileRaven1 votes

Umm. No. The ult + the E is what makes bard interesting/unique. They are literally the only reason I had ever bought him the first place. I refunded him, because his other two abilities are completely useless. His Q is like a lux Q except shorter range, a fraction of the damage, has situational stun instead of a reliable one, and is limited to two people instead of 3.

His W is really really weak for something that limited to 3 on the map. If it dealt damage or slowed enemies who stepped on it, then that would make sense.


He basically lacks the things that make a support a support. A support needs to either be tanky enough to soak up damage, powerful enough to harass an enemy out of lane in the early game, or have enough utility to protect the ADC and keep him alive and healthy.

Bad has none of this. A nautilus or a blitzcrank will walk right past him and B line for the ADC in the early game, and Bard can't do anything to stop him.

DrCabes1 votes

Late game meeps actually do a lot of damage, i've had games where i've done 2nd most damage on the team w/ bard.

Drukyul1 votes

No other champion in the game has 2 spells purely for "utility".

Zilean, who is also terrible, does.

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