Tank Ekko is still a thing, maybe not the best thing, but will always be a thing

MoarCowbell98·6/29/2016, 7:37:08 AM·5 votes·1,098 views

and its still cancer and un fun to play against even if its been nerfed into oblivion. its not broken dont get me wrong, but this shit should not be remotely viable in any way. the champion is designed to be an assassin and the problem is with two key parts of his kit.

his W is a stun. why? why does an assasin need any from of lock down like that or a shield utility? sure its difficult to use but it doenst fit on an assassin.

his ult heals him for dmg taken. that REEKS of tank. as long as his ult works the way it does that alone will make him somewhat viable as a tank.

right now tank ekko can go roa into full tank for basically similar shit to before.

he is always going to be a problem. so here are my ideas to make him more assassin oriented.

remove the W stun and shield. instead, in the circle increase his dmg output while he is in it. have it amplify his dmg for X seconds once he enters it.

remove the heal from the ult altogether and give it a longer rewind time so he can go in and use it to ult to safety rather than use it as a heal.

31 Comments

FluffyMcArfArf6/29/2016, 8:50:26 AM3 votes

As long as a champion is able to do percent health damage (without the need for items), then they'll always be able to AT LEAST build bruiser.

Whether any of you guys want to admit it or not, percent health damage being built into kits is unhealthy as fuck for the game, along with stealth.

I don't really give a shit if there are pink wards to buy. The fact that those are even needed is a problem itself.

...And it doesn't help that Riot neutered the fuck out of yellow trinkets.

I Q6/29/2016, 7:52:45 AM3 votes

What you are saying is "In order to fix tank Ekko, change his playstyle entirely so Ekko mains have no fun". I really don't appreciate this.

Tank Ekko now a days doesn't work unless he counters the enemy, or he is fed. So you could be saying "Well he shouldn't be able to do it at all!"

Lemme tell you a story, back in season 3 I faced a full AD veigar botlane. He carried. He got fed off of our botlane and snowballed, the AP from his minions and the AD from his build made him a hybrid damage monster and he literally 1v5ed. This can happen ANYGAME unless he doesn't get fed.

Anything works if you are ahead, I won a game as full AP garen once.

Don't act like you know how Ekko mains play, because you don't. Ekko mains don't use his Ult to escape situations most of the time. 20% Escaping, 30% Initiating, 40% Damage, 10% Heal. You making it a longer rewind will make it EVEN HARDER for us to time our ultimates correct and COMPLETELY screw his synergy with Zhonyas. Lets say it had a 6 second rewind, and we wanted to use it as AOE damage in a teamfight, that means I need to live for 6 seconds in a teamfight WITHOUT THE ENEMY MOVING. They will be all dead by that point, also the ghost for his ult will be OFF HIS SCREEN if it lasts more then 6 seconds. Also "More damage while in W field" is the WORST THING that you could do to his W, Ekko is all about going in, using your CD procing passive and REPOSITIONING. You can NOT stay in a field while repositioning, it will literally make it so your passive is useless beyond the damage and it will lower the depth riot put in his kit.

Basically if these changes happened the people who played Ekko before religiously, will now have to abandon their style, since no other character plays like Ekko. Except maybe Yasuo, but you all are screaming for a Yasuo rework as well.

When I heard Ekko might get reworked in the assassin rework I cried. Everyone saying "LoL isn't fun anymore" I have to say it is for me because of Ekko. If he gets reworked I will have to quit league because I do not have fun on anyother champion.

One last thing, can you think of the position I am in? How do you think it feels being flamed everygame for playing the champion you main, just because people think he's broken. How would you feel if you are called "no skilled" everygame just because you are playing your main? How would you feel if you get camped everygame because you played your main? How would you like it if your main is PELTED with nerfs and you just have to accept it. How would you feel if you made a board post about how much you like Ekko, thanking riot for making him and you are SPAMMED with hate and downvotes just because it's Ekko?

I only have fun while playing Ekko, and all I ask is for more seconds to play him. I am legally changing my firstname to Ekko when I get the chance.

Sorry for the rant, I did not mean to insult anyone in anyway, all I ask is you read it all the way through.

Colgate Gator6/29/2016, 8:18:29 PM2 votes

Tank Ekko is allowed to be a thing, as long as it doesn't outclass the main build path and has its drawbacks.

I still fucking hate Ekko himself, tho, and that's probably never changing.

DeathBurst6/29/2016, 3:28:46 PM2 votes

this shit should not be remotely viable in any way.

Well, yes it should. What it should NOT be, though, is being able to assassinate squishies while building tanky. But if there is a proper trade-off between the two playstyles, Tank Ekko has a perfect right to be viable.

And if you want his ult to be used more like an Assassin, increasing the rewind timer won't help. It's already damn hard to use the ult offensively, especially if you don't build tank. The more you increase the timer, the harder it'll be.

Ralanr6/29/2016, 1:52:45 PM1 votes

If you don't want his ult to heal, remove the heal and allow him to use it when CCed.

Stupid idea I know.

LordGeovanni6/29/2016, 7:58:17 AM1 votes

the thing is never will you ever see a heal for a tank where it heals for damage taken unless its insignificant numbers or the whole balance team changes

stealthfox946/29/2016, 3:42:10 PM1 votes

Look at Ekko's kit. He's meant to be a tank or bruiser not an assassin.

Twitch Chat6/29/2016, 7:37:57 PM1 votes

You CAN build anyone as a tank but with the nerf to his ability to stick on people with his passive I'd argue that tank Ekko is largely ineffective now.

ZT Xperimentor6/29/2016, 8:16:48 PM1 votes

Riot wanted a 'utility' assassin, and overloaded him more than leesin.

Woolgathered6/29/2016, 1:47:55 PM1 votes

I am literally laughing at what you wrote. You really want more Ekko nerfs? Haha, he is completely destroyed with his passive and W stun duration and all his spells base damage being nerfed.. Man it is BRUTAL in the jungle u cant even clear also in lane it is brutal.. Ekko is now less that 45% win rate and u want nerfs? Why don't u say i just got outplayed in lane, why not being honest? Please leave Ekko alone, Ekko is pretty weak now, all these nerfed destroyed AP Ekko and jungle ekko and deleted tank Ekko i mean tank Ekko deals zero damage, what are u even talking about? Can't quite get what ur saying