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Question on Jungling

samdar·2/26/2020, 3:35:31 AM·1 votes·2,529 views

So I am still somewhat newer to League. I’m level 40 something, and I’m trying to be a jungle main; Kayn specifically. I’ve had a few games now where one of my laners ends up getting ganked early and dies, then blames me. In the specific cases, there was a Illaoi top. She ends up getting herself killed first by Yorick in just a straight 1v1. Then she heads back and gets killed by an Evelynn gank that nobody saw coming cuz it was an Evelynn of course. There was no vision top river, and I was busy clearing my second red buff at the time; so it wasn’t like I was right next door to come counter gank. Keep in mind the game is like 7-8 minutes in or around that time, and these laners immediately point to me when they end up dying? Is this somehow my responsibility? I mean I know I’m supposed to counter gank when I can but when I’m in no position to do so, can my laner actually blame that on me? This has happened plenty of times now where I’m on the clear other side of the map getting my blue or something, then they die and jump on me. If it’s my fault what can I do? If not, what do I even say in that situation?

5 Comments

MasterDClone2/26/2020, 3:48:32 AM4 votes

As a jg main for several season's now, the only solution is to grow thick skin, because anything that goes wrong will always be seen as your fault while anything going right won't be giving u any credit, your laners will use you as an excuse everytime its convenient. The only 2 things to do is get good enough where you can prove your skill by dominating the other jgler, so that even if you lose they cant say better jg, or what i previously said in just getting used to it because it will keep happening

xHeimtechZX2/26/2020, 3:52:57 AM1 votes

Who cares about whose fault it is at that point? (I would say the laner's fault, coming from a laner, it can be the entire team's fault, but lets not point fingers). Instead, just ask yourself what you can do at that point. Can you communicate to your teammate for suggestions, like a control ward or keeping track of the enemy jungler for them? Is the lane redeemable at that point? If you gank that losing lane instead of other lanes, would it pay off? If that lane is scalable for late game, its possible to salvage it. If not, you'll just have to tell that player to stay safe. Your goal is mainly to get objectives and to do that, you need your lanes to get priority. If you can't countergank, then you can't countergank. You can't be in the right place at all times. Similarly, your laner can't always expect when a jungler will gank without vision or proper tracking. Don't hold it against your laner. If they get too negative, mute them. Don't take it personally. You're learning jungling, your prediction and intuition will get better over time. You can watch your replay to learn from it. Around 7-8 minutes, a jungler usually should gank by then. Rift Scuttler comes up at 3:15, I usually get one and look to see if I can gank. If a jungler hits lv.3, they can look for a gank (which can happen before Rift Scuttler comes up).

Zyniya2/26/2020, 3:59:40 AM1 votes

I used to main Kayn. Stopped since the XP nerf in the jg running Kayn aggressive trying to get 10 min transform and then running into a L6 mid at L4 is no fun. I found getting transform too hard until it's too late. I also really really loved playing Blue but now with the xp nerf one wrong gank can set you so far behind that going Blue Kayn will just be trolling. If you watch Twitch this is a Challenger Kayn main at least he was a Kayn main I'm not sure he never plays Kayn much anymore in this meta https://www.twitch.tv/karasmai

huhndog2/26/2020, 5:06:13 AM1 votes

Yea this happens about 50% of the time. My advice is to focus on a winning lane and maybe mute the flamer depending on how toxic. From my experience even when you help them, they still treat you like crap and still don't play as well, so its not worth your time. If top is heavy camped, vertical clear bot jungle and camp. Only downside is that your top lane may int or afk leaving all your top towers ez prey.