Any particular reason Kalistas are rushing Shiv?

The Worst KogMaw··1 votes·1,119 views

Color me unimpressed, but it's rather underwhelming. I've played against several today who rushed Shiv and I'm super confused. I know it synergies with her passive, but as first item? Really?

Is there a reason for this? Is there some powerspike or something I'm missing? As far as I'm aware the only ADCs who can get away with rushing attack speed are Vayne and Kog'maw, and even then it's not optimal (excluding Tri/Botrk).

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kyocrisis1 votes

I've never seen Vayne or Kog rush Shiv. As Kog I rush Tri or Botrk, Vayne rushes Botrk usually. As Kalista, there is a powerspike with Shiv as it gives waveclear, atk speed which increases her mobility, damage, and E damage, as well as crit chance. It's also cheap and in her recommended items.

Kalista would also get a powerspike from rushing Botrk or Phantom Dancer, maybe Triforce haven't tested it enough though. The main thing is that it's cheap and really good for her though.

The Worst KogMaw1 votes

Hmm... I did consider the benefits, but from what I saw today it doesn't give nearly as much trading power or kill potential in lane as, say, BF sword or cutlass. Generally ADCs want to rush an item that gives AD first. More attack speed and other stats don't mean much when their autos only do maybe 50 damage after armor and their abilities don't get the damage boost either.

Eh. Maybe I'll try it when I've got the ip for her. Pretty sure I'll be doing BotRK or IE though.

Also shiv rush with silver bolts max used to be a thing on Vayne. PD rush used to be viable on Kog. Pretty sure both of these were before BotRK existed though.

Grimspeake1 votes

i think its a bad thing unless your in a farming lane, how am i gonna roam bot(from mid/jg) and gank if u dont have enough damage to get them low... then again i perfer to win short bursty trades... which should be good for kallista since shes the kiting queen? i might be wrong here since i dont play adc but it seems kinda foolish to rush shiv imo

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