Full tank sylas doing the same damage as full AP Velkoz.

Zeppelins circus·Mar 24, 2019·3 votes·2,319 views

Also being mobile, healing like bonkers, doing damage. Isn't this tank ekko all over again? Is Riot ever going to damn learn from their mistakes? Seriously cut the damn healing or his damage or ANYTHING at this point. You are making champions that are ridiculously overloaded that people like me playing "normal" champions feel cheated. If you are to do this every patch, add something idiotic like fricking TRUE TRUE damage that deals the same amount of damage after the enemy respawns on their base to my kit so I can kill them twice because of the effort.

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MrFawknSunshineMar 24, 20193 votes

Velkoz Total Damage: 21,438 for 9th out of 143 https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/9.6/platinum/plus/champion/Velkoz/ Sylas Total Damage: 17,961 for 50th out of 143 https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/9.6/platinum/plus/champion/Sylas/

now this is average damage per game for this patch plat + worldwide

this notion that full tank sylas out damages a velkoz isnt true. now maybe in the one game you are talking about the sylas player played better then the velkoz, who knows.

but over 85k games for sylas and 44k games for velkoz so far this patch ( velkoz isnt as highly played ) this would prove other wise that velkoz out damages sylas.

Zeppelins circusMar 24, 20191 votes

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Total Damage: 21,438 for 9th out of 143 https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/9.6/platinum/plus/champion/Velkoz/ Total Damage: 17,961 for 50th out of 143 https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/9.6/platinum/plus/champion/Sylas/

now this is average damage per game for this patch plat + worldwide

this notion that full tank sylas out damages a velkoz isnt true. now maybe in the one game you are talking about the sylas player played better then the velkoz, who knows.

but over 85k games for sylas and 44k games for velkoz so far this patch ( velkoz isnt as highly played ) this would prove other wise that velkoz out damages sylas.

Sylas performance depends on the enemy team. In this case he stole my ult which is one of the best AP ults ever in this game. I know it is his kit, but a mobile champion having it, and a immobile champion having it has VERY different results that cannot be calculated by "statistics". It is out of context.

MrFawknSunshineMar 24, 20192 votes

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Sylas performance depends on the enemy team. In this case he stole my ult which is one of the best AP ults ever in this game. I know it is his kit, but a mobile champion having it, and a immobile champion having it has VERY different results that cannot be calculated by "statistics". It is out of context.

the issue is you want to cherry pick the game you were in as the be all of the truth and its not. the stats provided proves it.

sylas played better then the velkoz in this 1 example and out damage the velkoz in the one example you are speaking of. its not norm

HP CrookshanksMar 24, 20191 votes

Poke champions must have higher total damage than burst champions because they sacrifice kill potential for more poke damage. That's why even Ziggs (one of the weakest champions in the game) placed #2 in total damage dealt.

MrFawknSunshineMar 24, 20191 votes

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Poke champions must have higher total damage than burst champions because they sacrifice kill potential for more poke damage. That's why even (one of the weakest champions in the game) placed #2 in total damage dealt.

well yes and no, ziggs has aoe

HP CrookshanksMar 24, 20191 votes

All of Velkoz 's abilities are also aoe.

MrFawknSunshineMar 24, 20191 votes

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All of 's abilities are also aoe.

never said they werent. but thats not the argument the OP is making. he is saying a full tank sylas out damage a velkoz and its cuz of the champ not the player in this one game/sample

Zeppelins circusMar 24, 20191 votes

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never said they werent. but thats not the argument the OP is making. he is saying a full tank sylas out damage a velkoz and its cuz of the champ not the player in this one game/sample

I don't think you get what I'm saying. I'm saying why is Sylas allowed to have mobility, tank stats, damage healing all in one. I don't care about the other "data" or the degree of damage. I'm saying its a problem him doing all of it.

Troy242621Mar 24, 20192 votes

I mean in this meta you barely have to build damage to have a 1 second time-to-kill, Hell the best tank runes still give damage.

Zeppelins circusMar 24, 20191 votes

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I mean in this meta you barely have to build damage to have a 1 second time-to-kill, Hell the best tank runes still give damage.

This is why I advocate for TRUE TRUE damage. lmao

boricCentaur1Mar 24, 20192 votes

Sylas abilities have around 180 damage each so about 540 at level 18 and his abilities will have about a 10 second cooldown so 540 every 10 seconds made sure doing a lot.

Almost every ability velkoz has more base damage then sylas sooo no you were not getting out damaged.

But im not sure you even played velkoz since if you did you would know his passive does true damage the thing you asked for.

Zeppelins circusMar 24, 20191 votes

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Sylas abilities have around 180 damage each so about 540 at level 18 and his abilities will have about a 10 second cooldown so 540 every 10 seconds made sure doing a lot.

Almost every ability velkoz has more base damage then sylas sooo no you were not getting out damaged.

But im not sure you even played velkoz since if you did you would know his passive does true damage the thing you asked for.

Thats why I said TRUE TRUE damage. It does true damage after they respawn in base thus killing them twice. It's a joke. But honestly, they need to do something.