Nerf Kaisa.exe

UnknownTerritory·Jun 19, 2018·13 votes·5,758 views

She needs a nerf

14 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerJun 19, 20187 votes

Not Kai'Sa.

Rageblade.

Change that item, she goes back roughly to how she was on release. If she still needs work, toggle back some of the buffs she got after release.

VelvetCrotchJun 20, 20181 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

BLIGHTBRINGERJun 20, 20181 votes

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Not Kai'Sa.

Rageblade.

Change that item, she goes back roughly to how she was on release. If she still needs work, toggle back some of the buffs she got after release.

It's kinda sad because that's the one item that kept Varus viable for a while until now, when even that item wasn't enough to place him in a better place.

Guess Varus just needs a VGU, like the many others that suggested this on one of my previous posts. His playstyle identity is causing a lot of confusion due to his somewhat outdated kit, his in-game base visuals are old, his voice over doesn't match the new lore (as he refers to the events of previous lore), he's just becoming unreliable.

Varus's R is the only remaining impactful ability but it's easy to walk out of the tether range once you're near someone who is rooted.

Not to sound biased or anything but I just wish Riot could look into giving him a VGU in the future or atleast a small gameplay update.

UnknownTerritoryJun 20, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name= Król Wilk Sam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qpyttu9k,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-19T23:05:32.127+0000)

Not Kai'Sa.

Rageblade.

Change that item, she goes back roughly to how she was on release. If she still needs work, toggle back some of the buffs she got after release.

Rageblade? That item already got nerfed. Why nurf it more and not nurf the champion? I dont see any problem with the item?

ChaoticEkkoJun 19, 20183 votes

Why do I never see her but she's apparently soooo op. Hardly ever see her banned ethier

UnknownTerritoryJun 19, 20188 votes

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Why do I never see her but she's apparently soooo op. Hardly ever see her banned ethier

Keep that comment for yourself

ChaoticEkkoJun 20, 20182 votes

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Keep that comment for yourself

LOLOL some str8 salt

Kurt HyzanJun 19, 20183 votes

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BLIGHTBRINGERJun 19, 20187 votes

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Vayne is an exception of a kind. She is an Assassin Marksman. But I can see why this would frustrate people.

remakoroJun 20, 20182 votes

more like - vayne actually has lots of counterplay. Kaisa has... Lots of tools to counter anything that might happen to her. Fuck that shit.

underscores222Jun 20, 20184 votes

Just wanna drop that Kai'sa is designed as an "assassin Marksman" more so than vayne.

Acheron16Jun 20, 20181 votes

I'll never understand why people say Vayne is an Assassin Adc.

She has little to no burst Is better versus tanks/juggernauts/immobile bruisers Loses in most 1v1s against people who have burst Has little to no target access (little long range mobility)

[sg-lux-2]

BlåbæretJun 19, 20183 votes

Honestly can't believe this champ is allowed to exist in her current state. Ridiculously overpowered.

JaspersJun 20, 20183 votes

You guys can correct me by the way but I was looking at her after her going against an AP Kai'Sa in ARAM. She's a little silly ability concept wise.

Passive(s) - Does magic damage per auto that has a base amount, which increases based on her stacks she has. If this was the only passive it would be fine. This passive then increases based on 10-20% of her AP. Then if she hits 5 stacks, it does 15-20% plus 3.75% per 100 ap damage based on missing HP. To give a quick calulation. If she does this against a level 18 Nami at 50% HP and Kai'Sa has a reasonable 200AP, this will deal around 240-250 magic damage... and it's her passive. Heimerdinger's passive, he moves 20% more near his own turrets.

THEN she can upgrade all her abilities just by building more stats meaning, if she gets ahead she is even more ahead. Syndra also upgrades her base abilities but she essentially has no passive until level 8.

I think her auto targeting Q and long range from fog of war W which can proc her passive are stupid too.