After half a year after the rework, i am ready to compare new and old Rengar.

Sanelis·10/30/2014, 1:53:37 PM·1 votes·1,044 views

So Rengar was my absolutely favorite champion before the rework. He was changed because his Triple Q offered no counterplay to the opponent that was caught out of place. He was unarguably buffed, because he saw play in the lcs finals and did well. But how does he function now, how does he feel?

Let me start by saying his general feel changed. You are no longer an assasin. You really aren't. What is an assassin? A champ that swiftly engages, deals burst damage and escapes. The only assassin feature of Rengar is his passive and ult - which helps with the engagement part. Then, he becomes a True Tank. Emp Q for sustained damage. W for defenses. Bola for cc. Seriously, Rengar does very little damage up front - his whole kit revolves around sustained wet noodle slaps after the initial engage.

So what did i do before the rework? When fed, i would roam the entire map and pick people off with my swift burst. I got fed quite often and the game felt marvellous. When you saw the enemy, you KNEW he was going to die. He really was. Now? You need to chase him for ~5 seconds to match your pre-rework damage. And if you miss a bola, go home. You're done, assasination failed, turn your back now and hope the ranged enemy carry just doesn't kill you while you retreat.

Now, the jungle clear. Even after many months, every time i start jungling it is like someone hit me with a heavy object. No extra AS. Rengar's clear pre-rework was really decent and felt good. Now it's TERRIBLE. Rengar basically got his constant AS steroid removed. Instead, his Q cd went down 2 seconds i think. i can't stress this enough - it feels really, really bad. And is bad.

Third thing - the bonetooth necklace. Yay! Now a trinket! Which gives no combat stats, just a bunch of utility. Remember the 41 AD 5% cdr 10 ArmorPen beast it used to be? Sometimes with extra MS? And it cost only 800g. THIS was the purest assasin item ever made. THIS was what defined Rengar and made him strong. Holding 3 stacks was really easy. And 6 not unreasonable.

Tower pushing - Again, when i try to push now it feels like i was punched in the stomach. It was literally more than twice as fast before. And by literally, i mean literally. Now you are scratching the tower like a mage - with no AS steroid or skill that can be cast on the tower.

The Ult warning - The invisibility is not an invisibility at all. The only thing it does is bypass wards and making sure you don't get shat on while engaging. Wukong's W feels way better for assasination. (I play Wukong a lot lately) It is now just an extra leap.

Empowered skills delay - It is just a backwards QoL change. It feels REALLY BAD when you have 5 ferocity and are unable to cast empowered W or E just because someone thought it would be a great idea to introduce the delay.

Removal of the simultaneous AA + Q. An experienced Rengar was able to cast Q about 55% mid leap and then when landing, the Q would load, dealing damage 10 miliseconds apart from the AA damage. Fixed. It was a bug. Eat dirt, Rengar players.

Because of most of the above, Rengar's burst has gone WAY down. Because of that it is really hard to gank for example mid - you approach, opponent hides behind minions - it's over, bola cantt hit him. If you decide to use Q instead - good luck chasing the opponent for 5 seconds and AAing him. Not even mentioning a 1v1 fight vs someone that is remotely close to his tower.

So, what DID get better? Empowered bola, when you hit it. 1,75 sec root + 0,75 sec slow, then another bola for 2,5 second slow. Good times.

TLDR: If you are not going to read any of the above, just read this:

I DID NOT GET CRAZY FED ONCE WITH RENGAR SINCE THE REWORK. HE IS NOT AN INDEPENDENT ASSASSIN NOW - HE IS A STICKY CC SUPPORT JUNGLER. Like for example, Skarner.

Before the rework, i would have these awesome games sometimes. Going 10-0, Exploding people with no counterplay. It just... doesn't happen anymore. Even if i am 5-0 as Rengar and i have Ult and see enemy midlaner farming mid alone - I am not going to even take 40 % of his health. No chance. Even while engaging, i would usually have to leap into the turret range, and then get CCed and kited to death while they spam laughs. And in no way am i exaggerating or lying just now. You can't assasinate a laning Squishy now unless you are ridiculously fed.

Now, i do realise that Rengar is not a bad jungler. But he is barely a shadow of his former self when it comes to assassinating people.

PS: Remember what they said when they reworked Viktor? Damage over time feels bad and not impactful. Now players feel that his Death Ray deals more damage because of the nearly instantaneous second explosion. And you know what? It doesn't! It just feels better. And what does Rengar consist of now? 4 second AS boost. 5 second Armor/MR boost. Movement speed boost. 5 ferocity over 5 seconds. Rengar is a big pile of unsatisfactory, delayed power. And it feels bad.

5 Comments

xDingwithsalad10/30/2014, 2:16:20 PM3 votes

"i could burst people with no counterplay, and now I can't!"

ok

JJI74410/30/2014, 4:03:28 PM3 votes

TL:DR version: Riot succeeded in their goal of removing the toxic elements of Rengar's kit, but OP is unhappy that "Exploding people with no counterplay." doesn't happen anymore.

NaCl Shaker10/30/2014, 2:00:07 PM2 votes

You are no longer an assasin

Stopped reading right there

RadiantWings10/30/2014, 7:06:50 PM2 votes

Rengar still blows people up. I really think that Tiamat is resetting his auto-attack in midair or something because people don't explode like that without it.

The new bonetooth and R bonuses are absolutely stupid because they renege on the idea of making Rengar less snowbally by making his ult not even function well unless he gets the ball rolling.

The goal of making Rengar less bursty failed. Apparently you now need a 1300 range warning sign that Rengar's going to leap on you.

I think they just sort of threw their hands in the air after this rework didn't hit the mark.

Sanelis10/30/2014, 2:12:54 PM1 votes

Maybe if you continued you would see why.