Reworked Garen's E = Trunks vs Perfect Cell

Ace Access ·8/6/2015, 1:47:13 PM·15 votes·1,846 views

the first half is nothing but trunks being unable to land a single hits while getting pounded by cell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9HTsxiFsaE

"its quite easy to flaunt your power but its not going to get you anywhere if your opponent has any sort of speed, you fool, honestly its a very simple concept" - Cell

this video was the first thing that came to my mind when I heard about his new self slowing high damage E and he's right what good is damage even gonna do you when you can't even hit anything

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Critmaster Garen8/6/2015, 2:57:11 PM8 votes

P - Perseverance HP/sec at level 16 1.6% >>> 2.0% (Live value)

Q - Decisive Strike (Added) Garen now moves up to 50 units toward his target when attacking with Decisive Strike from max attack range

W - Courage Armor/MR per kill 0.2 >>> 0.3 Armor/MR per Champion/LargeMonster/EpicMonster kill 1 >>> 0.3 Armor/MR cap per rank 10/15/20/25/30 >>> 30 all ranks

E - Judgment Base Damage 12/16/20/24/28 >>> 20/25/30/35/40 (Removed) Garen is no longer slowed when moving toward champions he's hitting with Judgment (Added) Judgment now deals 25% reduced damage when hitting multiple units (Removed) Judgment no longer deals reduced damage to minions *R - Demacian Justice - unchanged

looks pretty good to me. all thats missing really is the silence ranking up.

considering that the spin deals a lot more damage by lategame, and that the base damage was increased in the same bundle of changes, 25% less damage should even out with live values. while he deals a lot more damage against single targets.

the 50 range leap means he isnt further away from his target after using his q because of his attack range increase, turning the range increase into an actual buff.

the changes will hit the pbe tomorrow.

Critmaster Garen8/6/2015, 2:20:17 PM5 votes

theyre removing the self slow.

yes, it was stupid. it felt like his kit is fighting itself.

also the per rank cap on his w passive. its gonna be able get farmed to 30 armor/mr from one point in the ability. and theyre increasing the bonus to .3 armor/mr per minion, and 1 armor/mr for large monsters. his old w passive is back in all its glory.

he also gets a 50 range mini gap closer on his q to accommodate for the 50 attack range increase. tbh, i would have just removed the range increase, but there it is.

i can live with the loss of tenacity on his w now, if they buff the silence at least back up to 2 seconds at rank 5.

BastionKross8/6/2015, 2:41:52 PM1 votes

Garen could have 3000 base damage on his rank 1 Q, but if they punish the rest of his kit by making him slow himself and removing his tenacity to the point where he can't ever get close enough to some opponents to ever hit them, that 3000 damage might as well be 0.

I heard they're removing the self slow. Maybe the champion design team has learned that champion kits just aren't viable when they actively work against themselves. We'll see.

Ser Garland8/6/2015, 2:50:45 PM1 votes

Cell was a cool guy. He taught people how to fight and didn't afraid of anything

Celeste Benal8/6/2015, 6:15:53 PM1 votes

That vid is why I cannot watch DBZ in any incarnation. So much bad voice-acting and grunting with so little actual action. Trunks sounds like he's taking a dump.

EchoZeero8/6/2015, 6:29:05 PM1 votes

Q: How many DBZ characters does it take to change a light bulb? A: Only one, but it will take 20 episodes.

dangopee8/6/2015, 2:14:45 PM1 votes

But without the self slow wouldn't it be like gohan vs perfect cell?

Trunks9/15/2015, 3:16:17 AM1 votes

wot

Critmaster Garen8/6/2015, 2:29:28 PM1 votes

from my memory, the flat resistance bonus was better for him early on, since it allowed him to farm up resistances against bad matchups where he was forced under his turret.

he doesnt have to recall or invest gold to build up a healthy bit of mr against that teemo in is lane. he usually had his full w passive available a lot sooner than the same values now with the % bonus. it was a large part of his early game strength and midgame powerspike.

he can just build straight damage and still get a bit tanky. lategame it allowed for more build diversity than now. im excited that its back.