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NEVER SURRENDER UNLESS U KNOW ITS LOST (fix this matchmaking)

TKM Axe··2 votes·595 views

"gg report adc for feeding this lee i run down mid and feed if u dont surrender" "we surrender now they got a fed vayne gg i go afk if u dont surrender now" "if u guys no surrender me will run down mid" "surrender plz buy 5 doran blades and run down mid" "plz kill me my team wont surrender they stupid" "even pro players know when to surrender" I AM SO TIRED OF THOSE PPL. they just make the game unplayable. Cant i just get a team who always know u can comeback. always know the hope is never lost.NEVER SURRENDER (unless the enemy team have all dragon buffs, a fed nasus and all our towers/inhibs down, and got baron buff then yes its pretty much over). BUT STILL I WANT A TEAM SO NEVER SURRENDER. i dont wanna wait 5-20 mins to find a game, and when i do, i get those player so be like "welp he gave yasuo first blood ff 15" just fix this matchmaking so i get a team so NEVER SURRENDER! so fight until there last breath when they know its hope left. players in my elo (bronze) dont even know how easy its to comeback here. i played so many games there i done crazy beatiful comebacks. but i also get those games there we do comeback then a random yi get penta kill. then they always vote to surrender i always press that NO button! but it dosent work. 4 yes against 1 no. just give me players in my matchmaking so NEVER SURRENDER. plz riot...plz ;-;

13 Comments

Dehitay3 votes

The never surrender mentality is a sign of massive delusion. There are games you obviously can't win unless the enemy team suddenly goes full retard or suffers some disconnects out of nowhere. But those are incredibly rare occurrences that you shouldn't base your decision making on.

However, it does make sense to keep trying if there's no major gap between yourself and the enemy. If they're honestly trying to surrender purely cause the enemy got first blood or because they themselves are having a bad game while the rest of the team is doing well, then they're annoying little brats who are too self centered to deal with a team based game.

But if your team is 4 and 42, you haven't gotten a single tower while they've conquered the map, and they're crushing you in every single fight; then you refusing to surrender is exactly as self centered as those who want to surrender at the drop of a pen.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

I'm not okay with people refusing to surrender in a lost-cause game either, but it goes both ways.

Trying to force the team to surrender by threatening to int is abhorrent behavior. If a teammate of mine does this it's always an instant deal breaker for me. That's a report AND a support ticket to Riot. They are usually banned a few days later.

TKM Axe1 votes

yeah game like 4 and 42 then is it pretty obvious u have no chance. but if we give away first blood. or the enemy get a penta kill even tho u team got 10 more kills an the enemy. or they go baron then can u still win the game.

AlienPrimate1 votes

That isn't the problem with surrendering. This is the problem.

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2674029262/209287161?tab=overview

The gold difference in this game was 40k to 43.5k and my team surrendered because "bard is useless." Our Bard made 2 mistakes in a row while warding the jungle and suddenly he is useless and we have to surrender? They only had one person on their team who was doing well and that was Twitch. My team had Lee Sin and Zed who could go on Twitch unhindered due to their lack of CC and I was playing Taric who can completely negate Twitch's ult. I was genuinely angry about this surrender vote.

Jo0o1 votes

Wait, so Bard voted to blame himself and accept the surrender?

bañ2 votes

I hate never surrender kids in norms. Just fucking press yes. "Wahh youre so toxic for spamming ff" Lets see. 4 people wanna leave and you're the one holding the game hostage. Whos the toxic one?

Lauchmelder1 votes

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"gg report adc for feeding this lee i run down mid and feed if u dont surrender" "we surrender now they got a fed vayne gg i go afk if u dont surrender now" "if u guys no surrender me will run down mid" "....."

Simple answer: "Go ahead." Some will understand immediately, some will understand once they are punished.

Ranmaru1 votes

You know what i hate when one stickler makes it so i cant surrender.When its a 4-24 game and someone says NEVER SURRENDER and gives this short speech about fighting to the end and a 15 minute stomp fest turns into a 45 minute **** storm going 16-48 or something insanely stupid where they out scale and are just better in general.I say the opposite when the game isnt fun surrender when there is no hope surrender your mind set is just as toxic to people who want to force a surrender because they alone arent doing good.

Jo0o2 votes

If the game lasts 45 minutes, it was 100% correct not to surrender early.

Ranmaru1 votes

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If the game lasts 45 minutes, it was 100% correct not to surrender early.

No it wasn't sometimes the enemy team just doesnt end for personal reasons like kda.When they bang up your inhibs several times and you know kill the same people over and over again it's a problem when you dont take a single enemy tower and pushed to your nexus for 30 minutes straight its traumatizing.Sometimes you have to think is this tiny tiny miniscule chance of a win worth another 30 minutes, even if we lose?

Dehitay2 votes

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If the game lasts 45 minutes, it was 100% correct not to surrender early.

You don't seem to understand what a team crushing their enemy will do to pad their statistics. This is nowhere near a rare phenomenon. This happens all the time. And it's not because the game is close. It's because people WILL take advantage of what opportunities you lay out before them.

Jo0o1 votes

/shrug

I've never experienced the mythical "enemy team refuses to end game despite holding a drastic lead" phenomenon. If you have, perhaps you could point an example out to me in your match history?

And if the enemy team would rather hunt kills than push objectives, that's a major strategic error you can take advantage of. Trading kills while behind is a net positive, and being given time to farm up lets you erase power spikes and reach item parity after a while. If the game's lasted 45 minutes, everybody should be at or near full build regardless of which team has more kills.

RookPusher1 votes

To be fair, if you don't ban Vayne you get what you get. 3 kills on that lady and it's lights. out.

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