So its been a week of a lot of playing and I still cant buy Tahm kench

Iręlía·Feb 5, 2018·19 votes·1,202 views

Can we go back to the IP system? I legit woulda had enough for a 6300 champ in like 2 or 3 days and Im sitting here stuck after a week with just over 4k BE.

I am lvl 29, almost 30 and I own 6 champs. Two of which are 450 champs, WW and Annie <3.

Then I have Ornn, Evelynn, Rengar, and Gangplank.

At Level 30 I should have a lot more than that. IMO. About double that amount. On top of that, I need atleast 20 champs to play Normal Draft? Silly.

Maybe I'm just butthurt, but it is still hurt none the less.

EDIT: To me it feels like a move closer to pay to win/play kinda game, where it is either extremely long and not worth it, you either give up or pay.

I dont like thsi direction, its not why I started playing League. I love the original free to play aspect of the game. It should stay like that.

27 Comments

MarshbouyFeb 5, 201810 votes

it took me a month on the old system to get aatrox. This perceived superiority of the old system is nothing more than rose tinted glasses. The math has been done. Until level 35, the old system is worse when it comes to IP/BE gains.

EDIT: that's not even counting the sheer bullshit that was old runes. Which were mandatory.

Sona PingFeb 5, 20189 votes

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Can we go back to the IP system? I legit woulda had enough for a 6300 champ in like 2 or 3 days and Im sitting here stuck after a week with just over 4k BE.

I am lvl 29, almost 30 and I own 6 champs. Two of which are 450 champs, WW and Annie <3.

Then I have Ornn, Evelynn, Rengar, and Gangplank.

At Level 30 I should have a lot more than that. IMO. About double that amount. On top of that, I need atleast 20 champs to play Normal Draft? Silly.

Maybe I'm just butthurt, but it is still hurt none the less.

EDIT: To me it feels like a move closer to pay to win/play kinda game, where it is either extremely long and not worth it, you either give up or pay.

I dont like thsi direction, its not why I started playing League. I love the original free to play aspect of the game. It should stay like that.

"Can we go back to the IP system? I legit woulda had enough for a 6300 champ in like 2 or 3 days and Im sitting here stuck after a week with just over 4k BE."

I doubt that because of the numbers. People forget it took near 100 games to buy him with IP. "I love the original free to play aspect of the game. It should stay like that." This game is still free-to-play; 1-30 is faster, I still get the IP/BE and now I get a bunch of coupons for champions with Hextech.

nm1010Feb 5, 20186 votes

I mean it sounds like you are on a smurf... my suggestion is to not smurf/get banned if you don't want to grind out champions. The other option is to pay the smurf tax and grab $50 in rp to buy a few champs you want plus the bundles in the store to hit the champion cap for draft mode.

Also I tend to feel like I get champions in decent time regardless, but all the other accounts I have are post level 30 so our drop rates are different.

IręlíaFeb 5, 20182 votes

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I mean it sounds like you are on a smurf... my suggestion is to not smurf/get banned if you don't want to grind out champions. The other option is to pay the smurf tax and grab $50 in rp to buy a few champs you want plus the bundles in the store to hit the champion cap for draft mode.

I am, I stopped playing about a year ago... and forgotthe email I used to log in. I didnt really own much on there though. I also wanted to see the new player experience.

HäxelFeb 5, 20181 votes

which is, far greater as it was ages ago. First you rrach lv30 twice as fast if not even faster. Second, comparing how i was on this account lv14 and just had Ashe, Master Yi and Wukong, a friend of mine has now Ashe, Garen, Brand (you get this in enw system from lv1-3), Katarina, Riven, Shyrvanna, Zed and still like be/shards left worht 1kBe. Also in no way you got 6300Ip in 2-3 days without boosts. Even with excesive Playing 1k day should be max, but for the average person even 500ip a day would have been much (with first win and general just winning ofcourse lets much). so yea, if youa re smurfing and playign excesive maybe it feels less, still for most players going to lv 30 now is far more rewarding as before.

Professor WardFeb 5, 20183 votes

In the old system it would have taken you FAR longer than a week to reach 6300 ip, took around 100 games played or 60 straight wins to get 6300

Guy Fox TeemoFeb 5, 20183 votes

It would have taken you an average a month of constant play to get a 6300 champion in the old system. The new one rewards players far, faaaar more. Also the fact that the lvling from 1-30 was halved last year.

Dope SoloFeb 6, 20181 votes

I'm going to call that out for being outright false. Having started in season 7 just before the change, i now have the ability to buy far fewer champs of choice than I did before. BE is so scarce, I end up sitting on the shards until I finally score one I might actually want to play. Picking the champ outright is just out of the question.

Guy Fox TeemoFeb 6, 20181 votes

Nope, not false at all, look up any of the people who did the math, (Even riot). On average evne if you disenchant every shard you will always get more BE. And I started in season 3, it took me 4 years to get all the champs, its far easier now, and even to get specific champs.

It Hertz When IPFeb 5, 20182 votes

You should also have Tristana, Garen, and Alistar, as they (along with 1 skin each) are awarded for free by following Riot's social media outlets.

THE RlVER KlNGFeb 5, 20182 votes

give this man tahm kench

IręlíaFeb 6, 20182 votes

Im TELLING YOU! I know, it takes just 3-4 days of playing in the old system to get 6300 or almost to that. When I play, I usually set aside the entire day 15hrs of playing constantly.

People saying a week to a month, and I laugh. You must not play anywhere near as much as me. I remember a little after Azir came out but I had just bought braum (old account I cant remember the email to) and I was from about 200ip to 6300ip to buy Gnar in just 3-4 days of constant palying.

Illâoi Evê SiônFeb 6, 20182 votes

This is just straight up false. You get champions much quicker in the new system because of increased Blue Essence gain, Hextech Crafting Shards and free Runes.

WariosFeb 5, 20181 votes

If you factor in the cost of getting top tier runes with the old system, are you really that far behind if you can invest all in-game currency into new champs?

TrampaFeb 5, 20181 votes

Wait lemme get some charts right quick

Ahri BakaFeb 5, 20181 votes

Actually , you would get decent BE in a week that are enough to buy a 6300 Champion , but not before level 30 , reaching level 30 became faster but the level up prizes are really lower than they are supposed to be , just to make players reach level 30 faster

Dead flag bluesFeb 5, 20181 votes

laughs in 30k unused BE but can't do anything with it either so cries too

OatheSwornFeb 6, 20181 votes

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laughs in 30k unused BE but can't do anything with it either so cries too

I got 20k BE because of a thing that appeared in the missions section a while back. It said that since I used the old rune system, I would get a reward. I asked my friends if they got it too but none of them did. I'm confused.

Not on this account, on my old account.

QuephaFeb 6, 20181 votes

That was a partial refund on the IP you spent on runes. All your friends should have got it too when the system switched over to BE last year, assuming they purchased runes before their prices were all dropped to 10 IP last year.

OatheSwornFeb 7, 20181 votes

Ah thanks, I was confused and my friends haven't gotten anything (probably didn't buy runes.)

QuephaFeb 6, 20181 votes

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I legit woulda had enough for a 6300 champ in like 2 or 3 days

You average over 12 hours per day? I think you're legit lying.

IręlíaFeb 6, 20182 votes

I shit you not. saturday - wednesday I get up at 9am and get on league and i dont get off until like 11 at night. I break it in half with like a 2-3 hour break around 5pm.

I play a lot.

QuephaFeb 6, 20181 votes

If you break for more than 2 hours then you are averaging less than 12 hours per day, you would not earn 6300 IP in 3 days at that pace.

And I can see from your Match History that your ACTUAL average is much less than that.

You are lying about the amount of IP you would have gained. I don't know why you would do this but at the very least it is very rude to waste people's time with your lies.

IręlíaFeb 6, 20181 votes

I dont play as much lately and no Im not lying. Show me maths instead of just "I check your recent match history herpa derpa.

I know how long I used to wait to buy a 6300 champ. I had all of them unlocked at one point.

QuephaFeb 6, 20181 votes

You know match histories are public, right? Yesterday you played 15 games, that's less than 12 hours of play time. The day before you played 7 games, that's less than 12 hours of play time. The day before you played 13 games, that's less than 12 hours of play time. You aren't even close to the values you're talking about.

In 3 days you would earn 3 FWotD for 450 IP and need to earn the remaining 5850 through grinding matches. Across 3 days that averages 1950 per day. One match used to give about 80 IP on average. That's over 24 matches per day.

You're simply mistaken, you have a bad memory of what the rate of unlocks was really like in the old system or you're lying for reasons I can't understand.

IręlíaFeb 6, 20181 votes

LOLOLOL! Once again youre looking at my recent, I'm talking about when I had time on my hands before I started college.

Thats like over a year ago. On my old account where I owned every champ. LOL, "stop and consider the following"

IręlíaFeb 6, 20181 votes

I finally got tahm kench! Incase anyone was wondering.