Well done rito. Not over bearing, scales well into late.
I dont feel forced to use w first, instead im REWARDED for hitting it late game (which is hard when they group and have even 1 tank)
Thanks for all this, I'll take this as in, no complaints. Infact the E ad scaling is even a bit highbut its manageable.
Truly, ty for listening. Its a great start and finish.
i cant move wtf3 votesShe wasn't weak. I played a bunch of the old Eve as well and this rework felt really good. You just couldn't blind pick her if you had no tanks on you team for the most part since she's a squishy assassin. Please Riot, stop listening to these boards.
Iręlía1 votes[{quoted}](name=i cant move wtf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RmyQUiEd,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-10-27T19:11:04.531+0000)
She wasn't weak. I played a bunch of the old Eve as well and this rework felt really good. You just couldn't blind pick her if you had no tanks on you team for the most part since she's a squishy assassin. Please Riot, stop listening to these boards.
Lol, "Stop listening to the boards." when most of the boards was actually against eve buffs cause - stupid?...
PokladnicaZla1 votesThere were 2 threads saying Eve was fine and over 5 threads saying she's bad and her stealth&charm were contradicting her kit etc.
Abibyama2 votesThey aren’t done yet
Riot is going full Ornn on Eve and buff her 3 patches in a row
A good start indeed
Apocalypsic2 votesI wouldn't be surprised if this is the last batch of buffs honestly. The first one was literally only a change for jungle camps too.
She really doesn't need more after this set of buffs.
Iręlía2 votesI agree, shes in a decent spot on the pbe and anymore would be greedy.
Elsewise1 votesActual positive feedback? Upvoted.
Oleandervine1 votesI have mixed feelings about the E scaling. I don't particularly like it. I have no intentions of building Eve with AD, and most of the build paths with her don't typically have room for early or mid AD items, so it'll pretty much be a wasted stat. I also know some people want to use the Gunblade on her, but the problem with that is that it removes her ability to utilize Protobelt, which I see as being more important (HP, AP, dash) than AD and AP.
Iręlía3 votesI rush gunblade after runic and mobis, the invis drive by executions when they think they are safe is hilarious
I get so fed, gunblade is op.
Also it may seem like a waste stat, but your base ad alone gives it more damage then the last. Its synergizes very well with GB. Plus it makes tank eve a little bit better. Shes all about versatility.
Great patch coming.
Oleandervine2 votesEve isn't supposed to be a tank. That was the entire reason her last kit was bad - she's an assassin, not a tank. Furthermore, squishies with heavy damage going tanky destroys the champ in the game. Do you Not remember Tankuo and Tankko?
Iręlía1 votesBut old tank eve was balanced. Ekko and Yas build tank and did high dps that would practically 1-2 shot you. Tank eve had decent sustained dps.
O Fallen Scholar1 votesIn my opinion gunblade is a trap item on her. But each to their own.
Barcid1 votesWhy? It's a 700 range targetted slow that I'm pretty sure procs her W. Least I think it does, hard to tell since I could never finish it on Eve when she came out because trying to get fed on her was like trying to defuse a bomb with no training - too much luck involved.
Lord Malpercio1 votes[{quoted}](name=Toxic Control,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RmyQUiEd,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2017-10-27T20:32:40.341+0000)
Why? It's a 700 range targetted slow that I'm pretty sure procs her W. Least I think it does, hard to tell since I could never finish it on Eve when she came out because trying to get fed on her was like trying to defuse a bomb with no training - too much luck involved.
Items do not proc Eve's W. Nor does smite. Nor does anything other than Evelynn's abilities. Interestingly, her Q and R both work for it, you can do some neat tricks with that.
Barcid1 votesI heard blue smite procs her W because it counts as a spell effect. I haven't tested it myself yet, though.
Lord Malpercio2 votesNegative. That's just a rumor. I've played a lot of her. Smite will get you movespeed so you can get in and proc it, but it will not proc it by itself.
Trust me I tried for it and have been disappointed w.w
Barcid1 votesFuckin' saaaaaaadness.
PokladnicaZla1 votesThat's the problem I'm having with the AD scaling.It opens the builds path for Gunblade,which in returns open the build path to build more tanky.Which will result will bruiser Eve or tank eve being popular and then get nerfed. It's seems they did this change to only appeal to people who were the opinion that hybrid Eve offers ˝diversity˝in build paths,but in reality (like a RIOTer already confirmed) double scaling is really difficult to balance.
Iręlía1 votesThat's the problem I'm having with the AD scaling.It opens the builds path for Gunblade,which in returns open the build path to build more tanky.Which will result will bruiser Eve or tank eve being popular and then get nerfed. It's seems they did this change to only appeal to people who were the opinion that hybrid Eve offers ˝diversity˝in build paths,but in reality (like a RIOTer already confirmed) double scaling is really difficult to balance.
Tank eve is not the same as old tank eve. These ad ratios still produce magic damg that is only slightly more than the flat damage it had. Unless her Q gets ad scaling (still plausible they'll do that) tank eve isnt coming back with these buffs to ap assassin eve.
PokladnicaZla1 votesI think you misunderstood.The AD scaling might not be high,but it allows to build ganblade for sustain,combined with her W shredding MR it allows to go for tankier builds,keeping a decent amount of damag,while also getting sustain. We all know how healthy an assassin with sustain is? cough Akali cough
Xion The XIV1 votesThis makes me think I can play Eve again. I loved Hybrid Eve since they don't need to build MR or armor to cripple my damage.
Siachi1 votesI'm sort of expecting not all of these changes are going to go live, but if nothing else I'm glad to see the stealth and R changes.
I'm personally not that excited for the AD Ratio; I started playing league in Late S3/Early S4, back when Deathfire Grasp was in the game. So I'm used to Eve being an AP Assassin, and it's STILL hard for me to think of her as anything else after all this time.
But the people who stuck with Eve longer than myself seem happy (or at least content) with it, so I'll just be happy with you. Worried it might make her synergize TOO well with Gunblade, but we'll just see.
Iręlía1 votesI think they will but well see
Lord Malpercio1 votesI'm sort of expecting not all of these changes are going to go live, but if nothing else I'm glad to see the stealth and R changes.
I'm personally not that excited for the AD Ratio; I started playing league in Late S3/Early S4, back when Deathfire Grasp was in the game. So I'm used to Eve being an AP Assassin, and it's STILL hard for me to think of her as anything else after all this time.
But the people who stuck with Eve longer than myself seem happy (or at least content) with it, so I'll just be happy with you. Worried it might make her synergize TOO well with Gunblade, but we'll just see.
There's still nothing really to warrant building Gunblade, a single AD ratio isn't gonna cut it really. Echoes + Lichbane is still a better rush.
Iręlía1 votesA bit touched, longest I've ever had a post stay active on front page. And with upvotes.
single tear
Iręlía1 votesAlso the people who still dont think GB is a good choice, it basically says heal for 15% of the damage you do on E. Thats a lot. Means you wont get focused down so hard after killing your target, also means you have better chance at blowing your load, shrouding, then going back in. It has so many uses I dont know what else to say.
Lighten1 votesI would have personally preferred more range on her E than mixed scalings, but I welcome the change. Duskblade might not be too bad of an item on her now.
She really has no one to engage or proc the W, and they have 2.5s to fully run away from the charm, let alone you actually landing the Q to proc it, so idk.
Meh the changes on her e are weird, and frankly stupid.
