My personal notes on the new Fiora ult.

Knalxz··1 votes·448 views

So after a few games of playing Fiora on the PBE and seeing others try her out I can say that so far I like what Riot has done but her ultimate has had some...issues.

Everything else seems solid besides just about everything to do with her ultimate.

Problem?

So the new Fiora's ultimate is what i feel destroys the kit mainly because the micro required isn't the healthy kid of micro like moving out of ekko's W or kiting someone, it's the bad kind where if you have the slightest bit of lag, you're just wasted your ult and your chasing after the person with the tag on them like a headless chicken being baited into a 1v5.

Of course you could just say, don't chase them obvious right? Not really because like i said above no one wants to waste their ultimate. Seeing them escape is like being zapped a second before you try to fire a clutch skill shot. It gets annoying fast. Now riot had forethought and has tried to remedy this with her Q being able to proc 1 the corner as well. If you land her Q getting the passive off it greatly reduces the cooldown.

So it breeds the idea of, activate your ult, Q in, proc 1, counter with W to slow or stun, get second proc, E for third and another q for the orgasm but it normally goes in the fashion of, you activate your ult and the enemy just leaves. So it has lead to people to continue building her as an AD assassin because if you kill the target before the ult wears off you get the BS heal. I'm all for carry top lanes but since she is squishy, and fiora has to get the killing blow for the ult to matter it leads to even more Fiora's 1v5 diving into teams thinking she can tank when sh get s her ult.

Solutions-

A few very obvious solutions come in mind.

  1. Reduce the heal, but make it so that Fiora's ult can be proced by allied auto attacks. (instead of Fiora attacking all the weakness she sees she could tell her teammates to aim for them as well.)

The issue I see with this is Fiora just because the best support in the game with true damage harass and an AOE heal.

  1. Have the ult cast the heals % ratio by how many marks have been hit. I.E. Getting one will give you 25% of the heal, getting 2 will give you 50%, ect.

I can kind of see a problem from assassin Fiora having an easy heal but she still has very little escapes.

  1. Make the ult start off with a form of meaningful CC. The problem with her ult is the enemy has too much resistance to it. Most champions ults are BAM surprise but this is telegraphed so hard that everyone can avoid it. A minor silence to start off with like 0.5 seconds and another for each proc would really make it something to behold.

Since last year Riot exicuted Order 66 on assassin silences I doubt this will will even make it to the PBE but something has to help he get those procs off and a meager slow isn't it.

That's all I really have to say about her gameplay wise. I still think she looks far too old for someone who in lore seemed like was younger same with GP IMO but that's a different talk.

2 Comments

Critmaster Garen1 votes

the meaningful cc is on her e and w.

she has actually a lot of tools to pop all the marks.

  • 40% movement speed bonus while in the lit up area.
  • her q has a lategame cooldown of just above 2 seconds with 40% cdr.
  • her w pops a mark and slows the target at range, even if shes not dodging damage/cc
  • you can pop the first mark with your e, which leaves you in a situation where youre affected by a 40% ms boost and the opponent slowed

the only thing id add to help her pop the marks would be to have the q apply the slow from her e imo, so you cna go in with e+q and immediately make a step sideways to pop a second mark with a crit, auto some, and then q to the other side to pop the other 2 marks.

Knalxz1 votes

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the meaningful cc is on her e and w.

she has actually a lot of tools to pop all the marks.

  • 40% movement speed bonus while in the lit up area.
  • her q has a lategame cooldown of just above 2 seconds with 40% cdr.
  • her w pops a mark and slows the target at range, even if shes not dodging damage/cc
  • you can pop the first mark with your e, which leaves you in a situation where youre affected by a 40% ms boost and the opponent slowed

the only thing id add to help her pop the marks would be to have the q apply the slow from her e imo, so you cna go in with e+q and immediately make a step sideways to pop a second mark with a crit, auto some, and then q to the other side to pop the other 2 marks.

Yeah I know this but this is all in the situation in the other person is wanting to fight you which no one will. If you actually fight the person you can get it off, but most people, see that ult on them and do the rational thing and take steps back. Losing 3 CS or not being able to ward isn't worth their death and lose of a teamfight because of the outrageous heal.

Looking at the perfect scenario in relativity is you find a player who didn't look at her update their teammates didn't tell them abut her skills. Also remember that you have to micro around to get the affects, if you Q in, or to the sides you've still lose any form of getting in further. The ms becomes useless because of the enemy just walking away. Similar to someone who's getting ganked but knowing they are going to live because the enemy has no real CC so they just walk to their tower.

In an effort to make her a higher skill cap champion she will fall even further down because of how terrible her ult is right now.

I didn't make this post because I hate this new Fiora and want to see everyone who plays her to burn, I made this post because this isn't really building healthy gameplay for a champion a friend of mine enjoys. I've seen him play her in ranked both assassin and fighter but now all i can see her is Fiora being an assassin just because assassin Fiora doesn't have to get hurt because an idea sounds good on paper but is terrible when put into action.

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