Pantheon is at a Stable 54% winrate. Being the highest in the game.

Low Elo JG EGirl·7/23/2017, 5:35:22 PM·91 votes·4,548 views

Some form of change to duskblade, his items, or his damage need to be done.

Edit: Holy mother of God if I see another comment saying "stop saying this to a champ you can't beat." Holy cow I've beaten it before numerous times. It's just that Winrate is super high, people can abuse him to plat and ruin people's games and stuff like that.

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chipndip17/23/2017, 5:53:42 PM32 votes

Second highest.

Janna wins more than anyone in solo queue atm.

And A Real Hiero7/23/2017, 5:57:01 PM14 votes

He needs a VGU.

Frightning7/23/2017, 8:30:59 PM10 votes

Pantheon's always been pretty busted. He needs a real rework to fix his problems though. As it stands, he's a ton of burst and a hard CC in a fairly tanky package=a very bad combination from both a fun and a balance perspective. Fortunately, he tends to not be very effective in teamfights, given that much of his damage can be interrupted (E is a channel), and that damage is his only AoE (other than ult, which should almost never actually land on someone of the damage).

DeusVult7/24/2017, 2:38:10 AM8 votes

literally all of panths items where changed in a way that indirectly buff him

item 3812 item 3147 item 3026 item 3134 This one helped a lot too. Panth didnt really need the out of combat move speed, but adding more damage into his laning trades every 30 seconds is huge. That, and with most tanks like Mao, Naut, Poppy falling out of the meta in favor of bruisers like Gnar, J4 and others means that Panths life became infinitely easier in top lane

BeatinWarDrumz7/23/2017, 8:52:19 PM6 votes

Pantheon is just a dumb champ frankly and needs a rework. He feels stupid to play against because you can't 1v1 him (like Darius) but you also can't kite him due to his poke and gapcloser, so there is really no way to win lane against him. His kit is very one dimensional and non-interactive - save for timing your passive and w reactivate, I can't think of any "playmaking" combos you can do, and even that barely qualifies.

I feel like if he were reworked into a "hoplite" champion that got a bonus from staying still and allowing champions to attack him, who could really bunker down, that would be cool as there is no champ who can do that in lol currently. Maybe he could have an ability that lowered his movement speed but put up his passive, and any champion who attacked him would be stunned

FireDrizzle7/23/2017, 6:35:44 PM5 votes

He may have a higher winrate but the is more balanced than Renekton, Pantheon falls off as soon as laning ends, he doesnt have an op midgame too.

Blåbæret7/23/2017, 11:59:33 PM4 votes

Worst part is that panth is braindead. A monkey could play him to Challenger.

Samura Yukisuna7/23/2017, 6:38:33 PM3 votes

Honestly, i havent seen a pantheon useful after the 30 minute mark. Doesnt matter how fed he is, beyond 30:00 he relies 100% on his team.

Hoenhiem7/24/2017, 7:11:55 AM3 votes

WOW an early game champion in an early game meta with a high winrate.

If he gets gutted and the meta shifts, he becomes garbage.

Report Evelynn7/24/2017, 4:53:07 PM2 votes

uuuhm Janna? She is a 55,8 lol :D

Salson7/23/2017, 6:46:07 PM2 votes

He does need a nerf/skillshot, but Janna, Cho and Malza have a higher winrate. Unless you ment top only.

DarkVladimr7/23/2017, 10:05:31 PM2 votes

Here is a solution. Play top Malzahar, Heimer or Shaco. Huehuehue

Hammermancer7/23/2017, 5:39:24 PM2 votes

you're gonna be like "wut?" but yo check it

Brand item 3027 item 3070

try that, it'll win

Werdx7/24/2017, 1:50:58 PM2 votes

All i can see in this topic here is 'nerf champion i have hard time against'

I never see pantheon in my 10-15 games a day.

Only champions i keep seeing over and over again are

YI,Zed,Lee and Yasuo,Orianna,Kog Maw,Lucian,Graves,Lux...

Top ranked people who play those champions have over 80% winrate.

You find 2 guys who play pantheon only, successfully, and you complain.

What about YI being able to 1 vs 5 at level 6 with only one item?

Yasuo being able to 1 vs 5 at level 6 with only one item?

Cog Maw being able to 2 shot you miles away?

Compare all of them to Pantheon,who can't do nothing in game once people obtain armor?

There's a reason why almost no one plays Pantheon.If you think pantheon has easy time,you feel free to get one yourself and climb 'easy' because that's what everyone is doing.They pick champ easy to play and they one button win,like people who play Tryndamere.

Try not to lie with sad sentences like 'its not fun oneshoting,we like champions that takes skill to play' because its not what you are doing.You aren't picking Pantheon for one reason only = there's at least 20 champions who take less skill to play and who own better than pantheon.If Pantheon was like you claiming to be,everyone would play him instead those champions i mentioned above.

Have a wonderful day,and keep in mind one thing

If you have hard time against some champion,try to learn how to play against it.

Hexs Fortune7/24/2017, 1:51:47 PM2 votes

Yea I see a ton of zed, and they usually lose

Corvo Attano7/24/2017, 2:15:05 AM1 votes

Got that pocket Cloud bro?