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Akali PBE = Why??? @RIOT Can someone explain??? Shrieve???

DeathTheHorseman·10/21/2016, 2:03:45 AM·15 votes·3,062 views

#First of all I am an Akali Devoted OTP

http://oi67.tinypic.com/2w3897d.jpg

#I keep looking at PBE videos and I am bloody terrified. ** I will attempt being as civil in this discussion as humanely possible but, BUT!**

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#Riot you are killing her! _** #40% of her DPS over 5 sec is gone. She doesn't burst for more either.... At no point of time (1 to 10 sec windows) she out damages the current Akali or gets even close to that.

On a champion that has only damage!

She can't shield, has no real CC or heal for allies. Don't you even dare call her Shroud a real CC because 30% slow in a small area at max rank for 60 energy cost is not good utility! Rylai an item she often gets gives her more slow than her shroud does.

#The point is she has Zero utility and just damage, but wait on PBE she doesn't do damage anymore! #So she is now just one: https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/57378772.jpg

#Literally all she brings to the table is damage and you took out 40% of it in exchange for what?

A clunky Shroud you are forced to cast on top of yourself after a 0.35 sec cast time!

You say it gives you a 250 range blink but in 0.35sec you can almost walk there without being a steady target...

(This cast time is enough for most people to murder you! If you get hit by CC while you cast the shroud in those 0.35sec the shroud appears you go invisible **BUT ** you stay in the middle! No blinks. People can just line up skill shots in the middle and kill you.) THIS IS A NERF COMPARED TO HER CURRENT SHROUD MINUS THE PINK WARDS! You can't place the shroud ahead of you... between bushes, on jungle camps, to check bushes or just to slow that guy with the tip of it that is 700 range away from you so you get an assist if he dies.

What you are left with is 250AoE invisibility from your current position and a blink to the edge of it.... You have a permanent MS bonus inside which is great assuming you get to fight in the shroud. When it's self cast the range of it is pathetic and I see no way to force someone in there.

This new shroud is bad!

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#Her Ultimate got destroyed!

Damage halved (base and ratios) and also gave it 2 sec hard cap between dashes.

With this any stickiness and chase downs are impossible.

There is literally zero clutch plays available to you with the ultimate when you can't double dash. You can't dash minions and then dash a squshy, you can't dash in proc a Q then dash out to avoid a skillshot then dash in again to finish the job.

#TO DO 3 DASHES you need 6 sec in LATE GAME! People get killed in 2 sec!

WTF??? Seriously WTF Riot...

Now you can currently play Akali successfully in 2 scenarios and only when ahead:

  • Duel as a split pusher
  • Careful team fight

#With these changes this is how the scenarios play out:

_** #Dueling power = Non existent.

#Hell, you now don't even need a pink ward to deal with Akali in a 1vs1!

One MR item and she will literally run out of damage and energy before you can die. The key to dueling her now is 50 MR! Just AA her to death straight on. Don't worry unless you are a support you probably have better damage scaling. If she tries to be sneaky and just hit you from shroud when Q is up just walk out of it. Cut off her escape path and murder her after it expires. Takes only 4 sec wait until we get to the late game.

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#Epic team fight = Rename her to the EYE OF THE TWILIGHT (obvious reason given bellow):

Team fights starts you dash the adc and start going for a combo. He uses any movement ability = 2 sec safety for him (it's that lvl 6 zero CDR nightmare state of Akali but for the whole game. You dash on someone ready to dish out damage, but suddenly he is not there. You can't do damage and you are squishy with no range. Basically time to die.) Boom headshot! ADC kills you safely from range with 1000dmg crits because you can't gap close to him again. If you decide to shroud make note that HE IS ALREADY OUT OF RANGE OF YOUR SHROUD THAT HAS THE AMAZING RANGE OF 250 AROUND YOU then assuming he and his team didn't kill you while you took your sweet 0.35 second casting you can finally become invisible and BLINK so damn powerful! Now you threaten to jump him again if he comes close. BUT WAIT! Then his support comes around ready to CC you if you try anything funny. Now you can wait for 8 sec and **WATCH **your team die from the relative safety of your **TWILIGHT **shroud.
#She is now the eye of the twilight and not Shen! Then again you can always choose to suicide and achieve nothing because you have no DPS, no Burst, pathetic sustain, no energy and last but not least your constructively flaming team.

#Why would they flame you? Maybe because you are so god damn useless they actually have the right to tell you that! Hell, I will honor them for noticing my uselessness after my flashy twilight blink play!

#One more trigger to the Akali players: http://oi63.tinypic.com/2uo56rq.jpg

#This crap above is not balance it's the NERF HAMMER HITTING HARD!

#GG Riot.

_** ** P.S. You dish out this to live and I will quit. Yeah, sure you don't care cause us Akali mains are less than 1% of the league but let me tell you something.**

#I am Akali OTP and I spent good money on your game BUT I will not tolerate you gutting my champion so hard and calling it an update for the better!

You promised the assassin update would make her better in High Elo and less stompy in lower Elo!

What you actually did was to STOMP HER in every Elo! From Bronze to Challenger THIS NEW AKALI IS WEAK!

#Wait for you god damn statistics of win rates!

I can however assure you that any games an Akali pick wins will be hard carried by 4 champions in her team because Akali is not a champion anymore. You made her into a joke!

She is a champion of damage and stickiness and on PBE she is now half the damage and no stickiness.

#In the end in all these board threads when we Akali mains asked you the Reds about the assassin update you bloody looked us in the eye then outrageously lied to us!

Her passive is the same effect but nerfed and tied to Auto attacks with cooldown.

#The only thing you really changed is her W and besides the removal of pink ward counter to shroud the ability is definitely a worse spell than before!

In return we Akali players lose 40% damage and rapid gap closing.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41YmQjOz9qg2Ecow/giphy.gif Kappa.

43 Comments

Danny DeVito10/21/2016, 4:29:15 AM5 votes

what a neckbeard

CrazFight 10/21/2016, 2:58:32 AM2 votes

Yes , imo the akali change was a huge wtf and imo the worst change. I mean wow.

Talinis10/21/2016, 3:18:26 AM2 votes

Don't worry bro, Akali will have company in the 30% win rate column. Fizz lost 34% of his damage if he builds AP but none of his damage if he builds tank and was given zero extra utility besides a bigger shark if he hits the mythical max range shark. Tank fizz reborn.

Brutalitops0110/21/2016, 2:30:24 AM2 votes

Simply put, she doesn't need as much burst damage anymore because she has more utility. Her W now blinks her to a location inside the shroud, giving her an early gap closer and helping her lane phase, and she doesn't get revealed by pinks anymore. Pretty much, she's designed around using the stealth field to help her stay in a fight long enough to kill people now, as ALL assassins are with this rework. Not a single one of the champions getting changed can 100-0 anyone in 0.1 seconds anymore, and that's the WHOLE POINT of the assassin rework, to make them able to offer more than just damage and so that they aren't total garbage if you can't reliably snowball as them, while hitting their burst because ADC players don't find getting jumped on and instakilled in a fraction of a second fun. The point is to give their kits more depth and to make them able to outplay and be outplayed better, turning them far more into that high skill, risk/reward character that you expect assassins to be. Zed got some more reward for taking risks (ult grants AD based on the target's AD if it kills them permanently). Fizz became more unique (shark gets bigger as it travels = better engage). Leblanc now has to wait for a delay to get the mark to pop, and that's where the majority of her damage comes from, but in return, she gets a much stronger map presence with her ult and more damage if she can get the mark to proc. Rengar's Q now has a much longer animation to it and is AoE instead of an autoattack reset, but it does a lot more damage (especially if you hit the second part of it), his Bonetooth Necklace is significantly improved, and his empowered W gives him a FREE QSS. Katarina requires about 4x as much skill to play properly as she does now, since most of her burst is centered on jumping to her daggers with her E while enemies are in range, which is really tough to do because the blades aren't easy to get to spawn right on enemies and they're extremely telegraphed. Talon doesn't 100-0 someone anymore without either ulting and/or getting into melee range with his Q for the bonus damage. EVERY assassin is harder to play, but at the same time EVERY assassin is a lot stronger when played well because they aren't 100% reliant on a snowball, they can still outplay when behind, where on live, if you fall behind on any assassin, you will be completely useless for the rest of the game (except maybe Fizz and Shaco). I don't see a point in complaining because they reduced an assassin's burst, but gave them much more utility to compensate. THAT'S THE WHOLE FREAKING POINT.

Hige10/21/2016, 3:39:43 AM2 votes

she got a buff O.o albeit not a big one

Twin Disciplines (P) 
    Cooldown lowered to 8-4 from 8-5
    AP ratio (damage) increased to 50% from 45%

Shadow Dance (R)
    Now includes charges when first learned
    CDR once again affects recast time.
Lugg10/21/2016, 4:29:36 AM2 votes

Of course they nerfed her burst, she was pure cancer in that regard.

They lowered her damage, but made her safer. So it's a healthy trade off for the game as a whole.

I'm mainly hearing a lot of QQ on this post. She will still be a good champ, just not freelo anymore.

FeeNeeX10/21/2016, 11:14:47 AM2 votes

I AGREE WITH YOU SIR

SnailGerwazy10/21/2016, 12:00:00 PM2 votes

Riot think Akali is too strong? No she isn't. Annie can kill Aklali in 1.5 second with stunn. But if Akali is too strong, why she have 49% winratio? Why Riot nerf Akali and gfive Buffs to OVER POWERED champions like ZED or KATARINA? Mb katarina is now more skillfull to play but still-BIG BUFFS TO ALL ASSASINS AND NERF TO AKALI. WHY?! RIOT say that they need to work more on Akali. OK so maybe DO NOT DO ANTHING NOW RIOT?! If u can't balanse Akali-OK WE CAN WAIT FEW MORE MONTHS FOR REAL REWORK - NOT THIS PIECE OF SHIT. Why ekko is reworked? becouse he was better tank than assasin. So why are u making other assasin Taqnk?! I WILL NOT PLAY THIS GAME, becouse now i have to fight against BUFFED Zeds with NERFED Akali. Sorry, nec hercules contra plures.

Potato Nose10/21/2016, 8:38:58 PM1 votes

I too am an akali onetrick (ign nightbluee3 on Na) and I personally hate the akali changes. And also since akali is a champ who's frequently onetricked riot is nearly removing akali from the game because all the akali onetricks hate the rework. Rito pls don't do this qq

Knight Devout10/21/2016, 7:17:22 AM1 votes

First of all I am an Akali Devoted OTP

Oh boy. Surely you will be unbiased and objective then.

Niyumi10/21/2016, 9:45:33 AM1 votes

Oh wah, your freelo main has counterplay now and can actually be beaten. So sad.

CrazyBear198710/21/2016, 3:32:29 AM1 votes

TL,DR

Did she get a nerf? Yes, you're not going to happy Did she get a buff? Yes, your still not going to happy

Are non-akali mains going to happier? Yes.

Chlululu10/21/2016, 12:04:22 PM1 votes

this made me laugh you're so mad its kinda fdunny but, having over a million points wouldnt they call you in for playtesting? or mayb ur 2 toxic idk

Ruin Lance10/21/2016, 4:26:44 AM1 votes

don't worry, if she ends up being a lot worse i'm sure she'll get some compensation buffs

Rip Rengo 201610/21/2016, 3:21:24 AM1 votes

She has looked fine to me on pbe.. at least in my games.