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Karma (Low Winrate 46,46% for a long while) - Please give her a small buff!

First Time Karma·2/8/2018, 3:45:00 PM·7 votes·703 views

Hello everyone! During the the preseason playing Karma was quite fun. Back then she had a 48,5% winrate as support and a 50% winrate as midlaner, which is still low but enough for non High Elo Players which are below Dia V. In order to nerf Ezreal and Panteon Riot decreased Arey Damage, Scorch Damage & Mana Flow Band's recovery Rate. Later on they nerfed the Socery Rune AP buffs by 5 AP as far as I remember.

As far as I know Karma as a Poke Support is considered to be weak against All-In and Sustain Matchups, while beeing really strong against Disrupt matchups. However since that nerfs her winrate decreases patch by patch. Currently it is on 46,46% (OP GG) on Botlane, which is pretty low. All other frequently used Bot Supports got at least 50%. And some of them are even at 52% which would be large difference towards Karma's Winrate. The thing I am asking for is whether Riot intends to buff her in the near future? As following it also makes less fun to play her because you always feel weak when playing her. I don't want her to be overpowered! I am only asking for a small buff, which would give her at least a 49%-50% winrate.

  • You could increase her Q Damage by 5-10 and increase the shield by 5-10 per skill level
  • Another problem is her super low base armor! She has 20 Armor at level 1! Other AP or sustain Supports such as Bard (34 Armor) Fiddle (30 Armor), Nami (29 Armor), Soraka (32 Armor) or Sona (30 Armor) are so much tankier. And there are also tank champs like Braum, Alister & Leona who got 50 Armor and 700 HP on level 1. It's even more with after shock and skills like Leona W. Furthermore they have got a super high HP reg. As following when I attack them with Q or Q+Ult they recover the lost HP in about 7-10 seconds without using a pot. I would be super fine with 28-30 Armor on Karma.
  • Other ideas would be to give her E Skill a slow immunity - but I am not sure how much impact that would have - as following I am not sure whether it would make sense to add it.
  • Please FIX the W Animation. When I W somebody who is runnying into a bush my W always gets canceled - as following I do not receive the 20% heal when used with my Ult. I consider her W as one of the weakest CC Skills in league of legends. It's just a root! Not a stun! Which needs 2-3 seconds to work and can be canceled easily by most of the champions who got a mobility skill. But I am fine with it beeing a weak root. But the Animation delay is soo annoying and really needs to be fixed. It feels like it takes 1 second until the W is actually on the enemy.
  • Furthermore the new support item changes made her weaker too. As Karma you really need the speed buff from the blue support item! You are a champ who loves to herass and poke. And without the speedbuff you can be killed so much easier! Please give us the speedbuff back. if needed you can put it on an other AP-Support item and increase it's price. For example Athene's or Ardens.

What do you guys think?

Karma

Kind regards

11 Comments

chipndip12/9/2018, 10:42:51 PM3 votes

It sucks because I like Karma, but she's been made so terrible that she's not even worth using in nearly any scenario.

MisterShameless2/9/2018, 1:25:24 AM3 votes

Hey man, a lot of the old karma mains have been asking for small buffs to Karma's kit all the way back from her season 3 rework and let me tell you, they haven't taken our advise for small buffs and often tends to go with some crazy rework in her kit, if you look back at 5.12 and 6.6.

Hochelaga2/9/2018, 6:08:34 PM2 votes

Did someone say Karma ?!

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Warrior Princess2/8/2018, 5:05:54 PM2 votes

karma does NOT need a buff.

Craktite2/8/2018, 7:54:40 PM1 votes

I think her basic spells are fine atm, but she needs change to her R+W, nobody use it, or one time/game... A change like if her R+W proc more fast? Add damage? Can be also really good if her R+E bombshield come back <3 .

jocomotion2/9/2018, 12:30:11 AM1 votes

Oh buddy, you'll find a lot of Karma mains who'll agree with you on the boards. Just try to watch out for the biased ones (like myself admit-ably)

First Time Karma2/8/2018, 4:04:44 PM1 votes

Don't forget to upvote in case that you share my opinion! :)

First Time Karma2/9/2018, 1:19:50 PM1 votes

Even during the arden meta when Lulu, Soraka and Janna and others were extremely strong she was still kind of weak which resulted in a 47,5% winrate or so. Which was kind of depressing. I just don't get why Riot hates her so much. It feels like playing the old Urgot back then between season 3,4 and 5. They never considered to buff him for years. And then randomly they reworked him.