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Please buff Karma - On OP GG she is under the last 5 champs of 30-50 champs on Top/Mid and Support

First Time Karma·2/17/2018, 4:00:51 PM·4 votes·2,039 views

Hello everyone! During the the preseason playing Karma was quite fun. Back then she had a 48,5% winrate as support and a 50% winrate as midlaner, which is still low but enough for non High Elo Players which are below Dia V. In order to nerf Ezreal and Panteon Riot decreased Arey Damage, Scorch Damage & Mana Flow Band's recovery Rate. Later on they nerfed the Socery Rune AP buffs by 5 AP as far as I remember.

As far as I know Karma as a Poke Support is considered to be weak against All-In and Sustain Matchups, while beeing really strong against Disrupt matchups. However since that nerfs her winrate decreases patch by patch. Currently it is on 46,46% (OP GG) on Botlane, which is pretty low. All other frequently used Bot Supports got at least 50%. And some of them are even at 52% which would be large difference towards Karma's Winrate. The thing I am asking for is whether Riot intends to buff her in the near future? As following it also makes less fun to play her because you always feel weak when playing her. I don't want her to be overpowered! I am only asking for a small buff, which would give her at least a 49%-50% winrate.

  • You could increase her Q Damage by 5-10 and increase the shield by 5-10 per skill level
  • Another problem is her super low base armor! She has 20 Armor at level 1! Other AP or sustain Supports such as Bard (34 Armor) Fiddle (30 Armor), Nami (29 Armor), Soraka (32 Armor) or Sona (30 Armor) are so much tankier. And there are also tank champs like Braum, Alister & Leona who got 50 Armor and 700 HP on level 1. It's even more with after shock and skills like Leona W. Furthermore they have got a super high HP reg. As following when I attack them with Q or Q+Ult they recover the lost HP in about 7-10 seconds without using a pot. I would be super fine with 28-30 Armor on Karma.
  • Other ideas would be to give her E Skill a slow immunity - but I am not sure how much impact that would have - as following I am not sure whether it would make sense to add it.
  • Please FIX the W Animation. When I W somebody who is runnying into a bush my W always gets canceled - as following I do not receive the 20% heal when used with my Ult. I consider her W as one of the weakest CC Skills in league of legends. It's just a root! Not a stun! Which needs 2-3 seconds to work and can be canceled easily by most of the champions who got a mobility skill. But I am fine with it beeing a weak root. But the Animation delay is soo annoying and really needs to be fixed. It feels like it takes 1 second until the W is actually on the enemy.
  • Furthermore the new support item changes made her weaker too. As Karma you really need the speed buff from the blue support item! You are a champ who loves to herass and poke. And without the speedbuff you can be killed so much easier! Please give us the speedbuff back. if needed you can put it on an other AP-Support item and increase it's price. For example Athene's or Ardens.

What do you guys think?

Karma

Kind regards

8 Comments

100Mirac2/17/2018, 4:41:48 PM2 votes

Yeah i agree with you. Karma needs some help in the bot and mid lanes. she's not a burst mage, not a cc chain support shes just in between. its like riot forgot about her after the splash update

Death by Glamour2/17/2018, 6:34:05 PM2 votes

She needs her kit to be updated or changed slightly

Professor Ward2/17/2018, 4:34:06 PM1 votes

As an enchanter main, karma is by far and above the hardest to do well with. Her cc isnt instant, and that absolutely kills her in comparison to Taric Lulu Janna

These champs have instant engage, and instant counter engage, whereas karma takes far too long to stop anyone, while having a shield that isnt any better than the champs listed. I do not recommend playing karma support right now.

P2LDiamond1/13/2019, 11:55:44 AM1 votes

They need to buff her attack speed animation l and buff her auto attack dmg by 4 or 5 also her base armor, plus they need to make her second spell able to steal her oppenent 5% of his own health.

Poske1/13/2019, 11:59:05 AM1 votes

Every time I SEE A karma buff for some reason I see a picture of karma wasting R>E for no reason

Devilreaper XIII2/17/2018, 6:24:10 PM1 votes

she needs an nerf if anything......

IxtaliKing2/17/2018, 5:33:15 PM1 votes

At the moment Karma's kit seems to be in a place where it's not allowed to be strong, which is why Riot is planning to work on her at some point this year. I believe Riot will be assessing AP champions once the new itemisation goes live, so we may hear something in regards to Karma in the near future.