I feel like zyra could be so much better

limebuster·12/21/2018, 1:48:57 PM·18 votes·10,877 views

I love her, but I really believe her design could be majorly improved upon to represent her plants better. Her kit atm seems clunky tbh and she doesn’t have many options in terms of gameplay, please leave some thoughts I’d love to hear other people’s opinions

29 Comments

Dr Dog12/21/2018, 10:36:53 PM7 votes

i think her q should be a circle again just seemed more useful that way the shape now is mostly a gimmick

Handy Sandy 12/21/2018, 9:10:23 PM6 votes

She has a DPS kit but lacks any good way to actually DPS someone down without getting into melee range, and that isn't possible when she has some of the lowest base health in the game. She also lacks zoning for someone who plays like a control mage because they don't last for very long. Also, her Q should be able to be rotated around it's center axis by clicking and dragging the hitbox, it would help mid lane zyra clear minions without standing to the side of the wave since shes so immobile.

Tobykachu12/21/2018, 6:18:05 PM4 votes

I feel as though Zyra is on the LOOOONG list of older champions that could really do with a visual update. Sadly the only time Riot updates a champion's visuals is when they rework them fully

Meritas12/22/2018, 1:14:43 AM4 votes

Oh, believe me, Riot can make her better. But if other reworks that made champions better are anything to go by, you will not be able to play her post-rework because of 70% ban rate and 15% of someone picking her before you on average.

FakeGravity12/22/2018, 6:20:52 PM3 votes

zyra suffer from the problem heimerdinger have sometimes during balance, if her plants are too easy to kill they are a gimmick, just an annoying little thing she does sometimes but if the enemy cant handle them or are too durable she becomes a zone control oppressive champion

maybe they should rework her passive again and make the W plants stronger? maybe the longer the seed stay around the stronger the plant is?

oortoomeebreesuu12/22/2018, 2:43:06 AM3 votes

The majority of her power budget was thrown into "these plants deal damage for you" since they made her randomly spawn seeds. Not my favorite mechanic.

Breezy Boyy12/22/2018, 1:02:27 AM3 votes

Thematically and story wise, I hope they try and make her a unique character, rather than a Posion Ivy knock off.

Ηuawei12/21/2018, 6:52:03 PM2 votes

She could dash and throw some more cc, and the wards she buys could be plants that explode and deal damage.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

koshkyra12/22/2018, 1:58:37 AM2 votes

I don't really have any ideas for changing her gameplay-wise, but they should revert her Q back to being a circle.

The old Q felt so much better to use than the current one imo.

GFREEMEN12/21/2018, 7:51:44 PM1 votes

I would like for them to do away with the random spawning seeds and make it so she gets to upgrade one of her spells (only one)

Q: Upgrade: When Zyra gets 100% attack speed from items When Zyra's Thorn Spitter plants shoot a thron at Zyra's target when she auto attacks them doing 1/3rd her auto attack damage as magic damage. This attack is counted as an auto attack and applies on hit effects and is in addition to the plants normal attack.

W: Upgrade: When Zyra gets 100 AP from items Zyra's seeds last 30s longer and act as a ward. When a unit dies near a seed or plant allies near the seed or plant gain regrowth. Double the effect if a Champion dies near by. Zyra also gains a Seed when a Large minion or monster dies near her and two seeds if a champion or epic monster. Regrowth - Gain 150% hp regen and 75% mana regen for 3s.

E: Upgrade: When Zyra gets 300 Hp from Items Zyra's Lasher Plants enrage for 3s if they attack a immobile champion. They attack in a AOE around them and their slow is +30% for a total of 60%

Then change her Ult to do about 75% the damage it does now but creates a Zone for 6s. The zone applies grounded and any plants spawned in the zone are enraged as well as plants already in the zone are healed to full.

Then make it so her Plants start out with 16 hps and lose 4hp/s for 3s. Enraged plants have 32 hps.

YaSdOeStAkEsKiLL12/22/2018, 12:32:08 AM1 votes

zyra is broken with her abilities(as support) so yea i wouldnt mind a rework

Illabethe12/22/2018, 2:47:03 AM1 votes

She doesn't have a lot of options? Whut? I play her in literally every role, and she has no real build restrictions.

I'm confused what you mean by "no options."

DNGSkitty12/22/2018, 6:27:01 AM1 votes

Ive been saying this for over a year. Riot devs don't give a crap about Zyra, it took meddler 4 months to fix a horrible bug where she would spawn her plants and they would sometimes not attack anything at all. 4 months.

I was also told me RIOT not to expect many Zyra skins because her champion is too complex/time consuming to make skins for.

RankOneWakanda12/22/2018, 1:25:13 AM1 votes

she currently has one of the highest winrate and pickrate across all servers