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Mujona·10/3/2014, 7:57:24 PM·3 votes·1,199 views

This is gonna be the first of many Scenarios I am going to post, to ask the community how they would react to a certain gameplay set up. After the great feedback from my problem, I feel like many others would benefit greatly from it as well. (Note: I am color blind, so I will refer to them as red and blue side)

October Week 1; The solo red buff Invade.

**Scenario: ** Red side jungler is going for a red to level 2 invade on the enemy red. Left alone he will probably kill the enemy jungle, and steal the buff. But, at the cost of all his health. He was seen going into the blue side jungle by the end of a trinket ward timing out, but only for a split second on the minimap. Depending on the side you are on, how would you handle this, or take advantage of it?

Info: Around 2:30~3:00 gametime Both teams even, No first blood yet, both teams leashed buffs, all summoner spells up. Top lane even (both have tp), Mid lane even, Bot lane Blue side is pushed up to Red side tower, Both junglers similar clear speed. Both teams did basic item starts, supports both have exhaust, teams about even in amount of CC.

Discuss below how you-yourself, or how you would get your team to react to this. Answer as if you are playing the lane that you play the most, from the view being on either team. (Upvotes help more people to see and discuss)

7 Comments

Mujona10/3/2014, 8:17:19 PM1 votes

I will try to tell how I would react from my favorite position, Support.

Starting off, I will say blue side has the higher advantage in this Scenario. As a support on the blue side, I would probably would have seen the enemy jungle walk past the ward as he went in (not saying I see everything, but I watch the minimap closely when my lane is winning). I would most likely type, or ping for my adc to fall back a bit or play safe, while I roam towards our red buff, I would also signal for my jungle to try not to take damage from the buff, while still baiting in the enemy jungle. At the same time I would try to ping for mid to come down, but only if I thought they could do it without letting the enemy mid laner know. While going up to help with the buff, I would ward the try behind to me make sure the enemy bot lane didn't follow. From there I would try my hardest to keep my jungle alive, without staying too long and my adc gets shoved out of lane.

Now, red side is more so at a disadvantage, while true they are the ones invading with what they think is "the element of surprise", the blue side can respond much quicker distance wise. As the support on the red side, while I would like to say I would have see the enemy ward time out as my jungle walked past it, I am not that good. So I would probably ping to be careful, but that we are pushed up under our tower. Next, I would most likely type, or ping where I saw any of the lanes go out of sight, be it mid/bot/ or even top for tp. If then I felt that he was getting collapsed on; via that lack of enemy shown in lane, I would most likely Ping my adc to be careful and try to farm under tower as long as he was full hp, and roam up behind my tower and up the river past dragon toward mid. Then, I would try my hardest to get my jungle out alive. Before all of this though, I most likely would of been pinging like crazy to get out, and pinging my mid laner that we were doing a rescuse operation. * I would love to hear from others, how they would handle it*. Depending on the different play set ups.

12tales10/3/2014, 8:31:24 PM1 votes

Around 3:00~3:30 gametime

This isn't a realistic time frame unless you're playing against some crap like Jungle Irelia. If somebody's walking into my jungle after three minutes, they're going to find a double buffed Eve.

Also, I can't think of any remotely viable jungler that would take over a minute to clear their own blue and walk to the opposite buff.

Anyways, assuming that you just mean 'around the normal time for this sort of thing' - as a Blue Side jungler, if I'm the stronger duelist or have pressure in both Mid and Bot, I'm just going to kill the dude. If neither of those are true, I'm going to mirror the enemy jungler and do something like Blue->Enemy Red-> Enemy Wraiths/Golems and gank top because I know there's no risk of a countergank.

As red side... I don't do that? Sounds gimmicky as shit, especially since it assumes that my team wasn't strong enough on that side of the map to just invade at level one.

Lstrike10/6/2014, 2:08:24 PM1 votes

As Support, I would ward tri-brush for top laner to tp in and I would push lane with the ADC.. I would also position myself in the tri-brush (while warding it) so I can cut the enemy bot lane when they go to help their jungler..

As ADC, i'll push the lane hard hard hard...