End game buffs too strong

Tayzzer·12/29/2019, 7:28:26 PM·9 votes·5,028 views

Nowadays playing after the enemy gets elder or even just a dragon soul feels like just a formality because the team with these buffs will just win unless they mess up really bad. I guess riot maybe is trying to make games shorter or something, and big end game buffs let the ahead team close the game out, but if you remove next to all chance of a comeback it feels like you are just locked in a game that's already over.

tldr: can souls and elder be nerfed so the team that doesn't get them actually has a chance?

14 Comments

Clockwork Mouse12/29/2019, 8:44:26 PM4 votes

It is as if Rio doesn't want you to play the game. "Hurry up, you been at this for 20 minuets!" [sg-shisa]

Woodakoodashooda12/29/2019, 7:56:25 PM3 votes

Acquiring Elder means the game ran late and it helps a team secure victory.

The reason buffs like Baron and Elder exist is so that neither team can indefinitely stall their opponents from within the safe confines of their base. They do not exist to make games end sooner, but to ensure games end and preferably within an hour.

As players slowly begin to realize and appreciate the importance of drakes, I am beginning to see more interaction between teams fighting together over objectives.

So while Riot did add more damage to a game that does not need it, I like that they've incentivized players to be team players and coordinate with their allies.

Blue Shift12/29/2019, 10:51:24 PM3 votes

That was the point of them.

They buffed baron an absolute fuck ton to force games to end faster, then they added the new dragons and rift to make snowballing harder, then they added the elder dragon buff to mimic the baron buffs.

The entire decision making behind these were to force game timers down for the chinese demographic of people who don't own home PCs and want the games to be faster.

Pair this with the other horrible changes like runes reforged and you got yourself a game that 9 times out of 10 will be decided by 20 minutes.

in a hood near u12/30/2019, 1:41:01 AM2 votes

How strong is just right?

Tr4shB4NSYST3M12/29/2019, 8:50:53 PM1 votes

Dragon soul already got nerfed, i think its mostly in a reasonable place. Elder for sure needs to be toned down though.

Daddy Ants1/1/2020, 5:29:33 PM1 votes

Elder and Dragon Soul are meant to close out games.

XJ9999999999999912/30/2019, 12:24:33 PM1 votes

if you are getting dominated that hard you deserve to lose.

mark602812/30/2019, 2:25:26 PM1 votes

Three times i faced elder dragon and don't want to play this shit game anymore. What a fuckin disgrace. Witnessing what these tards over at riot are doing to this game is actually painful. Getting executed from what feels like half your HP considering that everything oneshots you anyways these days with no way to counter it is a joke. All for the sake of "gasp" games shouldnt be too long blabla. Maybe, just maybe games should be long because that's what this entire fuckin genre is about. This isn't call of duty for fuck sake. If someone gets into the moba genre he knows what he's getting himself into. None of the other arcade shitshow mobas is popular guess why and people have been longing for a decent moba that is quick to get into (unlike dota which is the superior game since ever) but people don't want an arcade shooter moba which league currently is. Tho as long as china and vietnam numbers are high i guess nothing we can do. Triple prestige akali still finances a month for the entire company so whatever. Game will stay a shitshow and die a slow but painful death until in twenty years we get league reforged or something. I guarantee you the shitshow elder dragon will lead to is teams in proplay not doing anything until the last dragon teamfight because no one wants to risk anything when there is a guaranteed win on the minimap. The same mistake riot did when they butchered vision, made baron op as fuck etc. it always does the opposite of what riot wants or expects.

Żügżwäng12/29/2019, 8:45:56 PM1 votes

Souls have been nerfed. They're no longer auto win. Elder is still strong, for sure, but since the recent changes I've witness comebacks occur after teams had dragon buffs.