Brand's ultimate and Yi's Alpha Strike (Q)

shaiith··2 votes·1,350 views

I've noticed that if Yi starts Alpha Strike while Brand's fireball is on him, it continues to the next target afterwards. Is it supposed to act like that and if so, isn't it a bit, i don't know the right word, unfair?

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Zach Sandwhich3 votes

If it's already damage you before you alpha its fair game. Otherwise I think it should be cancelled so that yi could potentially just cancel Brands Ult if he times it right.

shaiith1 votes

Yes, Yi was already hit when he launched into Alpha. Don't know if it cancels before the hit though, didn't see it in action.

sortitus1 votes

Sorry for the extremely late reply, but I played a game a couple days ago where I Alpha'd a Brand ult well before the projectile hit me (he had already used all of his other spells so I knew any animation would be ult). The ult particle disappeared and I didn't take damage at first, so I thought it was successful. When I came out of Alpha, I immediately took damage and the ult bounced to a nearby minion and then back to me. Pretty sad when I thought I'd outplayed perfectly by saving Alpha for that moment only to die instantly when I came out.

Just thought I'd add the info since this was the first result on Google for "yi brand ult".

Drugoth1 votes

This was an intended change on Riot's part IIRC. Brands ult used to fizzle entirely if Yi dodged it with counterstrike making Brand's ultimate do no damage and go on full cool down.

So you tell me, is it fair for Brands ult to just disappear altogether just because one enemy dodged it?

shaiith1 votes

Like many others do, yes. But some abilities have lowered cd if interrupted, so that could happen instead.

Shahamut1 votes

Yas can windwall it and several other ults (at the same time if you arent paying attention). QSS (an item) negates a lot of different ults and skills as well, Skarner's being the easiest one to bring to mind, but there are others.

At least in the case of Alpha Strike, he has to time it, and it has to be off cooldown. If he is holding off to try and dodge the Ult, deal as much damage before hand to try and bait it out.

If that is too much, just ban Master Yi and Yasuo in every game you play Brand. Oh, and also Braum.

A Simple Desire1 votes

Well Yi's alpha has always been wonky with the invulnerability. Sometimes AoE skills still hit me despite me being the middle of Alpha Strike. So I assume Brand's R counts Yi as a target to hit despite being invulnerable. That's just how Riot made it to stop brand from being completely useless in teamfights.

windwolf7771 votes

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Well Yi's alpha has always been wonky with the invulnerability. Sometimes AoE skills still hit me despite me being the middle of Alpha Strike. So I assume Brand's R counts Yi as a target to hit despite being invulnerable. That's just how Riot made it to stop brand from being completely useless in teamfights.

Just a minor thing, it's "untargetable". Just a very minor nitpick.

A Simple Desire2 votes

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Just a minor thing, it's "untargetable". Just a very minor nitpick.

WHAT?? It's untargetable and not invulnerable? I have 200k mastery points as Yi and I thought it was invulnerablility. Holy shit I'm the pinnacle of boosted animals.

windwolf7771 votes

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WHAT?? It's untargetable and not invulnerable? I have 200k mastery points as Yi and I thought it was invulnerablility. Holy shit I'm the pinnacle of boosted animals.

All good man. Like, if you got summoner 14ed while on like, 10 HP, you can die before you even finish the alpha and deal no damage. Goes the same for any DoT skill I believe also. Yup. I was right. Just control F for "master" to find it

shaiith1 votes

Understandable. Thank you

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