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Azir as a bot lane apc

Blueharlequin·11/22/2016, 5:37:40 PM·5 votes·2,681 views

TL:DR = Azir functions as a bot lane ap equivalent as an adc. If reworked into an bot lane apc he wouldn't take much adjustment to be a solid pick.

Alright. So this is a concept that I've borrowed from Smite as a possible new direction fix for Azir.

In Smite the Gods Chronus and Sol are both magic damage based Gods that build attack speed or have attack speed steroids in their kits that allow them to essentially be a magic damage adc (atk speed steroid, damage, some mobiity/utlity). Now I have no idea of the meta for Smite but I do know that Sol was pretty strong when she first released and was in their tournament scene. So this type of champion model has merit to it.

Back to League let's look at Azir. What is he? He's a long range, auto attacked based dps champion who requires excellent positioning to be effective. Sounds like an adc in a nutshell. Azir has the base for an ap adc already in his current kit. His build even mirrors an adc build (nashors = crit/atk speed item, rylais = IE spike, void/deathcap = last whisper/raw damage). He even builds greaves at higher elos.

I've played with Azir as an adc a few times and the laning is a little difficult until you purchase stinger but once he has that his trades get favorable. He functions well with good lock down supports who can make it easier for him to land qs and autos for a burst trade with thunderlords.

Max q for the damage and the slow, building atk speed (nashors/greaves) in lane and then max w afterwards for a secondary spike in the mid game. He would function as a long range adc who can be an ap threat when you have an ad mid like an assassin or Varus/Jayce.

Even his E and ult function well, E as an escape and ult as a get off me move, when the support has already engaged. The problem with that is the shurima shuffle does not mesh with Azir. Honestly it never has meshed with Azir no matter how cool it is.

But what do you guys think of this concept? Has anyone else tried it?

14 Comments

FioraWillCarry11/22/2016, 6:33:00 PM2 votes

Former Azir main 600+ K mastery here. I tried to make this work many many times at one point. The problem was Azir's base damage scales with levels and bot lane levels the slowest. You would be robbing yourself by playing him bot lane where he would be outscaled by a the enemy ADC who scales better on gold alone. Azir needs gold and levels. And all this was before his last round of nerfs. I wouldn't dare hope it could work now.

Also, level 9 is a huge powerspike for Azir. You need to get there as quickly as possible. At level 9, he gets max damage and minimum cooldown on his Q. At 40% CDR and max rank, his Q goes to 3.6 seconds or something like that which is essential to playing Azir effectively. Level 13 is another powerspike if you're maxing W second. At 40% CDR and max rank, you can have 3 soldiers out at once with his W.

ph1234k11/22/2016, 5:41:12 PM1 votes

adc = attack damage carry

You have played him in the bot lane, not played him as an adc. To play him as an adc you would be building attack damage items.

Pandemic Punch11/22/2016, 5:57:13 PM1 votes

Ignore the grammar nazi's. I knew what you meant. I have been trying to convince friends who play ADC to try this out but they are meta slaves. :(

Jon117411/22/2016, 5:39:10 PM1 votes

So He can be an Ability Power Attack Damage Carry?

Noxian Pride11/22/2016, 6:55:14 PM1 votes

You guys are behind on the times.

From the same man who brought pre-rework AD Malz Jungle.

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/platinum-marksman-azir-emperors-flurry-411816

Oglaf11/22/2016, 7:16:10 PM1 votes

I always suspected he was an Armoured Personnel Carrier.

Explains where all his soldiers come from.

Divewing11/22/2016, 10:45:41 PM1 votes

I did try this, but right now it's not worth it. It worked back when guinsoos worked with Azir because you could do the DPS thing much better. As is he's better in his mid lane Battle Mage-DPS hybrid