10 ban system is stupid/no reason to nerf yasuo

Ýasµo··3 votes·1,558 views

First off, I personally think that the 10 bans system is inefficient and poorly designed. I would have preferred for a system akin to the one recently used in the LCS, so that necessary, OP champions can be banned in the first round, while people can still get their champion(like Yasuo or Lee) that is disliked. THis way, 10 bans still exist, but it's not as oppressive to people who play these popular champions. As a Yasuo main, I'd like to focus on yasuo. I don't really see why we should keep nerfing this champion, especially because of how little he will be played after this new system. If you nerf him, his playrate will go down, but people will still ban him because of his seemingly "unfun" kit. If you're not in low elo, there's almost NO reason to even THINK that this champion is broken; CC completely shuts him down and counters him, so all you have to do is throw your cc at him and watch him melt. I also know that a lot of people don't like the windwall, but it's far from broken. Just because it's a unique ability that can block projectiles, doesn't make it broken. It's one of Yasuo's only tools to survive, and it's almsot completely useless against melee champions that beat him in the early-mid game, and sometimes even in the late game. All you have to do to counter it is to wait it out or walk through/around it, and use your cc to prevent him from being able to retaliate. Even slows are extremely effective here. If you think his e is oppressive, all you need to do is let him push and kill the minions so that he has nothing to dash to to outplay you. Even better, freeze the lane and try to zone him with your range. Once again, CC is extremely effective here. I think that Riot is just nerfing Yasuo because a lot of low elo players either don't want to learn how to deal with him, or don't know how to deal with him, but it's not fair to us high elo Yasuo mains who have to struggle against people who know how to counter Yasuo.

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Incognonymous7 votes

I fucking love this. Grovel at my knees, Yasuo playing scum. You will never have your champ again so long as I get a ban. Go ruin a bot game.

Ýasµo1 votes

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I fucking love this. Grovel at my knees, Yasuo playing scum. You will never have your champ again so long as I get a ban. Go ruin a bot game.

I see that you're only silver 2.. makes sense

Incognonymous2 votes

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I see that you're only silver 2.. makes sense

Logical fallacy. Makes sense.

Sustain me with your salty assrage, you filthy yasuo main.

Ýasµo1 votes

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Logical fallacy. Makes sense.

Sustain me with your salty assrage, you filthy yasuo main.

You're the one who is very clearly salty lol. Yes I main yasuo. At least he takes skill and isn't broken that's all I'm saying

Rcteg1 votes

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Incognonymous2 votes

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It's not a logical fallacy, it's a fact that you are not experienced enough to know about the higher levels of play and the state of Yasuo in an objective gameplay sense.

Hilarious. I was playing this game while you were still in diapers, kiddo. For your information, the person who plays Ranked on my account hacked it. I never did anything about it because he never spent my resources, added his own mastery pages, and generally does about as well I would anyway. That doesn't mean I will take credit for his/her accomplishments or failings.

You don't have to be a fucking rocket science to understand that Yasuo's kit is fucking retarded. He has more hard CC than most tanks and more defensive aspects to his kit on top of that....

AND THAT'S NOT EVEN THE PART PEOPLE FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT

It was nice knowing you, you salty Yasuo mains. Better pickup something else and quick-- because the freelo stops here, and I have a feeling you're all going to start losing now that the gravy train has stopped.

Rcteg1 votes

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Incognonymous1 votes

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You contradicted yourself so much in such little time I'm astounded that you have the mental capacity to form these incoherent ramblings. Nothing you said has any reason or logic backing it, and it's so cringy, I think it will become the newest copypasta. Anyone who has had to read one of these monstrosities you call a post had to have experienced mass brain death. Please stop posting.

Stop shitting in your hand and smearing it on boards. No one likes it.

Rcteg1 votes

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Incognonymous1 votes

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what

The mental diarrhea meme you just tried to post where it didn't apply.

DrCyanide3 votes

If Riot makes it so he has to aim his Wind Wall, he might have a chance to come off of people's permaban list. The ability is frustrating enough as is, but when you see a Yasuo panic throw it the wrong way at the last second and it still eats your only stun... That's where I think it's unacceptable.

Then again, I play Xerath, so that's the only thing he can block. I at least get to see the panicked low health Yasuo's throw it up as I release my Q, and I smile as I know my attack is still going through.

(Because I can ignore Wind Wall, I ban Katerina instead)

Cocho3 votes

1- This ban system is amazing, you just dont like it because yasuo is going to have a 140% ban rate. Solo queue doesn't have any planning, so there is no reason to have it like LCS. We all know what we're banning before we even queue up.
2- LCS system would take way too long 3- Yasuo was buffed with the update to crit items, and tanks having less health, but more armor to shred. This nerf didn't even take away his playstyle or damage. Also, you've played 1 game with the nerf. 4- Yasuo is good in high elo. I don't really have any solid evidence for this besides one of the best Korean players, Apdo, saying he's broken. And the fact that if you look at lolskill, there are plenty of master/challenger yasuo players. While if we look at someone who is actually bad in high elo like garen, there is just one, and that is in the LAS server. A champ with that much pressure early, with a strong one item spike is going to be good in higher elos.

it's not fair to us high elo Yasuo mains

5- Plat 2 isn't high elo. Your best winrates aren't even on yasuo. 6- CC might as well counter every champ that isn't tank. That isnt a good argument for a counter. 7- Try thinking without being so biased.

Sp33d Zer03 votes

I would argue plat 2 is high elo. Is it OMG amazing? No. But it's still top 2% of players. Anything else that is 98 percentile is considered pretty good.

Ýasµo1 votes

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1- This ban system is amazing, you just dont like it because yasuo is going to have a 140% ban rate. Solo queue doesn't have any planning, so there is no reason to have it like LCS. We all know what we're banning before we even queue up.
2- LCS system would take way too long 3- Yasuo was buffed with the update to crit items, and tanks having less health, but more armor to shred. This nerf didn't even take away his playstyle or damage. Also, you've played 1 game with the nerf. 4- Yasuo is good in high elo. I don't really have any solid evidence for this besides one of the best Korean players, Apdo, saying he's broken. And the fact that if you look at lolskill, there are plenty of master/challenger yasuo players. While if we look at someone who is actually bad in high elo like garen, there is just one, and that is in the LAS server. A champ with that much pressure early, with a strong one item spike is going to be good in higher elos.

5- Plat 2 isn't high elo. Your best winrates aren't even on yasuo. 6- CC might as well counter every champ that isn't tank. That isnt a good argument for a counter. 7- Try thinking without being so biased.

1 it wouldn't take any longer then the other one we had 2 yasuo was never buffed at all except when the made ie cost less but that buffed a ton of champions as well 3 yasuo is nowhere near as good in high Elo as he is in low and apdo said he was broken about 2 years ago 4 plat 2 is kinda high Elo and my mmr and winrate is higher then yours 5 yes cc counters every champion but not as badly as yasuo 6 this wasn't really biased at all

Cocho2 votes

1 it wouldn't take any longer then the other one we had

The one we had took too long

2 yasuo was never buffed at all except when the made ie cost less but that buffed a ton of champions as well

Zeal, IE, GA, tabi nerf, just off the top of my head. Yeah it buffs others too, but we gotta look at it case by case. You're telling me holding Q for 4 less seconds is more of a nerf than these other changes are buffs?

3 yasuo is nowhere near as good in high Elo as he is in low and apdo said he was broken about 2 years ago

it was 8 months ago. Around worlds I believe. So, yeah, not that long ago.

4 plat 2 is kinda high Elo and my mmr and winrate is higher then yours

my elo is garbage, but your mmr isnt even higher than mine. My winrate is 66% to your 71%, but I'm higher than you lol Yours would be lower (if) by the time you got diamond

5 yes cc counters every champion but not as badly as yasuo

Alot of champs do not have a spell that negates projectiles and multiple dashes. It is often harder to CC Yas compared to another diver/assassin

6 this wasn't really biased at all

this looks biased.

yasuo was never buffed at all

no reason to nerf yasuo

it's not fair to us high elo Yasuo mains

throw your cc at him and watch him melt

I'll watch him throw a windwall lol

Ýasµo1 votes

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The one we had took too long

Zeal, IE, GA, tabi nerf, just off the top of my head. Yeah it buffs others too, but we gotta look at it case by case. You're telling me holding Q for 4 less seconds is more of a nerf than these other changes are buffs?

it was 8 months ago. Around worlds I believe. So, yeah, not that long ago.

my elo is garbage, but your mmr isnt even higher than mine. My winrate is 66% to your 71%, but I'm higher than you lol Yours would be lower (if) by the time you got diamond

Alot of champs do not have a spell that negates projectiles and multiple dashes. It is often harder to CC Yas compared to another diver/assassin

this looks biased.

I'll watch him throw a windwall lol

Walk in front of the wind wall bud and you can probably throw your cc 4 times before it's up it's on a 20 second cd and it was 2 years ago cause red mercy made a video about it over a year ago and even THEN people on the comments were complaining that he said yasuo was broken so yes it was a very long time ago. And if you could explain how to me how this is biased and not just a person that understands that there is nothing wrong with yasuo. There are a good handful of people that would say this same thing that don't play him

Cocho2 votes

Walk in front of the wind wall bud and you can probably throw your cc 4 times before it's up it's on a 20 second cd

I cant throw it, because he's windwall basically anything on reaction. If i spend the time to walk in front of the windwall, odds are im dead lmao

Here is why you're biased.

yasuo was never buffed at all

A ton of the item changes and the tank update buffed him. You dont even consider all the indirect buffs he's received

Redmercy said he was broken 2 years ago.

Apdo said he was broken 8 months ago.

Now he's suddenly a sub-par pick???? what lmao

no reason to nerf yasuo

Right above his nerf in the patch notes, it said why.

Yasuo was already on the cusp of being too powerful and midseason’s cost reductions to critical strike items just pushed him over the edge. We’re reducing the amount of pressure he exerts by sitting on Q stacks to give opponents more chances to play against him

Do you think he needed the buffs to crit items, tabi nerf, and tanks having more armor? No he didn't.

So again I'm asking,

"You're telling me holding Q for 4 less seconds is more of a nerf than these other changes are buffs?"

Rcteg1 votes

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1- This ban system is amazing, you just dont like it because yasuo is going to have a 140% ban rate. Solo queue doesn't have any planning, so there is no reason to have it like LCS. We all know what we're banning before we even queue up.
2- LCS system would take way too long 3- Yasuo was buffed with the update to crit items, and tanks having less health, but more armor to shred. This nerf didn't even take away his playstyle or damage. Also, you've played 1 game with the nerf. 4- Yasuo is good in high elo. I don't really have any solid evidence for this besides one of the best Korean players, Apdo, saying he's broken. And the fact that if you look at lolskill, there are plenty of master/challenger yasuo players. While if we look at someone who is actually bad in high elo like garen, there is just one, and that is in the LAS server. A champ with that much pressure early, with a strong one item spike is going to be good in higher elos.

5- Plat 2 isn't high elo. Your best winrates aren't even on yasuo. 6- CC might as well counter every champ that isn't tank. That isnt a good argument for a counter. 7- Try thinking without being so biased.

I hate your point 7 argument; cc will take Yasuo, and ruin him. He can't e. He can't windwall. He can't lifesteal. Literally all of his outplay factors are removed. Yasuo is more affected by CC than some other champs who are more beefy.

Cocho1 votes

you can say the same about any other melee mid

and im gonna ask for the 3rd time,

"You're telling me holding Q for 4 less seconds is more of a nerf than these other changes are buffs?"

Warhammer Titan1 votes

Just because a champion will get banned in draft/ranked doesnt mean he wont be played in normals.

Dokkaebi1 votes

Another shitpost.

Where is the downvote squad at?

Ýasµo1 votes

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Another shitpost.

Where is the downvote squad at?

Maybe explain how it's a shit post mr eu?

waiting for WoW1 votes

Oh wait... you mean like how Riot nerfed LeBlanc and Rengar because high elo and pro players were too good with them and challenger and pro teams didn't want to deal with them?

Yeah it sucks when the entire game only gets balanced around one end or the other doesn't it? Clearly people just find yas unfair to play against at least in lane.

Ýasµo1 votes

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Oh wait... you mean like how Riot nerfed LeBlanc and Rengar because high elo and pro players were too good with them and challenger and pro teams didn't want to deal with them?

Yeah it sucks when the entire game only gets balanced around one end or the other doesn't it? Clearly people just find yas unfair to play against at least in lane.

Yes they do find him annoying to play against hell I think that too but in no way does that mean he's brokne or need another nerf

Nhifu1 votes

Yasuo won't ever be balanced unless his shield gets an HP bar :P

RookPusher1 votes

Hey guys, maybe he has a po....

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Leblancs Boob1 votes

Go ruin some other game. I dont ever want to see Yasuo again. Thank you Riot.

Ýasµo

And I get 14 down votes for speaking my opinion and telling the truth about yasuo. Guess that's how this community has to be

Trashball1 votes

A lot of your post is built on opinions rather than truth. Many of them are firmly believed, and may very well be truth, but you don't have the authority to assert their accuracy, nor do you provide concrete evidence for them.

personally, I just don't like yasuo's ability to cut ranged champions off from team fights for four seconds without any large difficulty. Pass through the wall? have you seen what happens to an artillery mage in close range? Cause it ain't good. I would probably be fine with yasuo if they just reworked his windwall into a different defensive steroid that doesn't let him defend his entire team from the other team's entire back line.

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