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@Meddler What are the upcoming balance changes to Veigar?

Mirror Mirror·9/1/2015, 6:31:45 AM·6 votes·19,754 views

Hi, Veigar main here.

@Meddler I wanted to know what ideas you had in mind for the buffs that are coming for Veigar.

Here are some of my thoughts if you want...

Passive: I think it's fine no change here.

Q - Baleful Strike: I did enjoy what you guys did to his Q during the rework but in-lane trading became difficult albeit stacking has become easier.

W - Dark Matter: Really nice scaling AoE ability that does well at clearing. I actually max this first against heavy pushers mid. I feel W is in the right place, but it is due to E that it feels a lot weaker.

E - Event Horizon: I am not sure how I truly feel about this ability. I miss being able to catch and stun people with accuracy. But the E being delayed actually works very nicely as zoning tool so you can say its better for team fights and tower dives. W is hard to hit when E misses, and with new E it misses a lot by design.

R - Primordial Burst: I really did feel the nerf in dmg after the rework especially w/o dfg. When he is fed and ahead it is very punishing and very toxic ... but then again so is Zed's, Syndra's, Annie's, Talon's, LeBlanc's, Kat's, Yasuo's, etc ultimates. Wouldn't mind some power back here.

Thoughts: I think what Veigar needs is more consistency. Sure in the right hands Veigar is a scaling destructive force that almost seems unbeatable at times. But people need to realize that he is weak against all AD mids and suffers in lane due to mana costs, lack of a reliable form of trading, no escapes with no mobility besides using E.

Possible Solutions?

E and W Changes: Make E more reliable at stunning targets. If that's not possible make W easier to land possibly with some form of interaction with E. Possible increasing the AoE of W inside of E.

Q Changes: Make his trading more reliable by making Q have diminishing dmg but can pass through multiple monster, minions, and champions or an interesting idea where his Q after passing through/killing the first minion then successfully killing the second minion hit pops Baleful Strike out like MF's Q and prioritizes Champions dealing extra dmg.

ty4reading ur boy barry bordeaux

50 Comments

RiotMeddler9/1/2015, 7:29:10 AM19 votes

What we're currently testing:

  • Q grants AP for champion assists as well as kills
  • W starts at the beginning of Veigar's cast time, not the end
Curling Veigar9/2/2015, 6:31:58 AM3 votes

that means the w will fall .25 seconds faster.

so... cool, i guess?

Karczelote9/1/2015, 12:26:09 PM2 votes

All what Veigar need this is old "e", don't buff his "q" or "w" (mb "r" need buff) just this stun and he will be fine :) {{summoner:2}} Veigar

Bisaknosp9/1/2015, 12:45:04 PM2 votes

well imo veigar doesnt need any buffs people will call for buffs till he is op and then cry for nerfs like always...

SwapShadows9/1/2015, 5:57:32 PM1 votes

Make his Q point and click so he can become a lane bully again.

every competent veigar player used to play him as a major lane bully and a roamer until his q become a skillshot that anyone at a higher elo can never be hit by if they position properly.

zackrools2209/5/2015, 12:14:54 AM1 votes

I feel as if a change from his stun to a slow might suit better given the casting time for his E. A powerful stun? Absolutely. More difficult to capture people? Yea, a bit. Im not one to demand anything, just throwing out an idea to see how others think about it.

Deathawaitsyou9/13/2015, 5:22:33 PM1 votes

as if he needs a buff!! you one shot mages and your skill shot is an aoe thats takes no skill! how more easier do you want him to be? grow some balls and skills and just stop complaining he is already broken enough