ivern buffs when

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What??

Please elaborate on what you think is shitty about it and what you want to see instead.

i want to see an actual passive that isn't a stupid gimmick where every meta jg out jgs him anyway his builds are also really awkward he should be less shit

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Dosen't he have the highest winrate of all junglers

what parallel universe do you hail from? his winrate is still sub 45

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Just wait until the pros pull him out on stage. .. And believe me, they will.

That may not directly translate to him being played well by the average player, but you will see how stupid strong he is in the hands of a coordinated team.

no he won't because then the sheeple will play him also lee sin is a better ivern than ivern there's a reason for his 43% wr